Despotism thrives on #GunControl.
It’s horrible when even the Taliban can burn America on Freedom of Speech.
That’s when you know you’ve hit rock bottom, Facebook.
Facebook is code for Fascism.
The Taliban have won.
Thanks George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden!
19 years! Thousands of lives lost. Tens of thousands of wounded and injured who will never be the same again. Billions wasted.
This is a disgrace.
I know he didn’t lose it alone, but, for me, Joe Biden will always be the guy who lost Afghanistan. He left without a thought to consequences.
For the second time in 50 years, America is going to sit back and watch as an Army that we created is slaughtered by an enemy.
I doubt Joe Biden is even aware that Afghanistan is in trouble. Psaki is telling him that the Taliban have surrendered and that White Supremacists are the great danger to Afghanistan. AOC wants to fly to Afghanistan to preach Wokeness and Critical Race Theory. Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar are dancing and celebrating the death of these imperialist American soldiers.
“The key here is that we’re trying to end a war responsibly, deliberately,” Milley said, “and to do it on terms that guarantee the safety of the U.S. vital national security interests that are at stake in Afghanistan.”
The only responsible way to end a war is with victory.
It seems Mark Milley believes we can go to war, force a people to fight a war for us by financing their little toy military, lie to ourselves on PowerPoint for nearly two decades about how GREAT we are and what a GREATABULOUS job we’re doing and then, when we grow weary, we can just walk away from that conflict and call it responsible.
For if we speak it, it shall be…as long as we put it on a four blocker on PowerPoint in Arial font.
“When we understand that slide, we’ll have won the war,” General McChrystal dryly remarked, one of his advisers recalled, as the room erupted in laughter.
The Afghan military needs leadership.
They have some good young leaders out there. Hopefully, a few of them decide that the sacrifice to help their people is a worthy effort for them. Gather these soldiers. Train them up. Lead them.
The Afghan political leadership is weak and corrupt. If they truly loved Afghanistan, they would get out of the way and let some young turk lead the way through this current crisis and into the future. The old, corrupt men need to get out of the way. Their way has led Afghanistan to disaster. They are selfish, decrepit old men. They need to go.
Afghanistan is a creation of the West. It’s a money cow and nothing more. The old men like Karzai, Abdullah and Ghani have failed because they lined their pockets and the pockets of their cronies for the past two decades. It is time for these and other greed driven warlords to get out of the way. They’ve done immeasurable damage.
I don’t know if Afghanistan will survive. I don’t even know if it should exist. Centralized government has never existed in the geographical area that we call Afghanistan. The Soviet Union tried to install one. The US tried to install one. Perhaps, it should not exist. It may never exist.
If Afghanistan is to become a real nation as opposed to a puppet government based entirely upon some outsider nation’s patronage, the old line must give way. The young leaders must step forward and step up.
It’s either that or Afghanistan splinters and we will get some mix of Taliban (Pashtun), Tajik, Hazara and possibly Da’esh led mini-States constantly warring upon one another as proxies of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, the US, India, Russia and China.
The Taliban cannot accomplish much on their own. What no one is talking about is that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are arming and supporting these Taliban groups. Make no mistake. There is no monolithic Taliban power in Afghanistan. These Taliban groups are not warring in a vacuum.
I’m sure that China and Russia have pet groups in Afghanistan. I’m equally certain that Iran has their set of pet groups.
Iran does not want a Sunni Taliban power on their border.
India has no love for the idea of a Pashtun Wahhabi bent Taliban led power in alliance with Pakistan.
Neither China nor Russia want a Wahhabist Sunni (Salafist) Taliban fomenting Islamic Extremism into Western China, the Central Asian Stans and bordering regions.
The US should be working with Russia, China, and, yes, Iran to put the Taliban down and to keep their Saudi-Paki induced madness from spreading into the Central Asian plains, China and Eastern Europe. We should have been doing this for the past 20 years. Alas, we’ve allowed our arrogance to make us ignorant and we are here at the end of our Afghan epic having wasted two decades and two trillion dollars with our greatest triumphs being the creation of Dubai as a financial center of the Middle East, flooding the world with Afghan opium, Afghan multimillionaires and a few thousand newly minted Americans in the Afghans who served as interpreters. We also brilliantly created a National Defense force that has fallen apart in the first minutes after our departure.
“The brutal police chief of Kandahar has been killed along several other officials,” a Taliban statement said.
The death of LTG Raziq was a National Tragedy. It has caused dissension among the ranks in the ANDSF and the ASSF. It as caused a rift in relationships between the Coalition and the Afghan National Security Forces.
This cannot stand.
This is what the Taliban want.
It cannot stand.
Despite what the Taliban have said about him. LTG Raziq was a national hero of the Afghan people. He was a solid ally of free people and those who love life and liberty throughout the World.
The lies of the Taliban had led to Green on Blue incidents between US Forces and Afghan Forces. This was their intent. This was their strategy.
It cannot stand.
If Afghanistan wishes to be free. If Afghans wish to be masters of their destiny. If the people of Afghanistan wish to define their lives as they see fit. It cannot stand.
The United States has made mistakes. The United States is working hard to bring peace and stability to Afghanistan. Again, the United States had made mistakes.
The only mistake that the United States has made as concerns LTG Raziq is that he was not protected as befit his importance to the National and International situation and his importance to the cause of Peace and Liberty.
We should have protected him as if he were the last breath of Liberty in Afghanistan. We did not. We failed.
And so did the Afghan people.
The people of Afghanistan are failing again in allowing the spread of malicious rumors intended to prop up the interests and strategy of the Taliban. The Afghan people should defy these rumors. They should deny these rumors.
No United States Citizen, General or Soldier had anything to do with the death of LTG Raziq. The Taliban admitted to killing him.
In a statement, the Taliban referred to Gen Raziq as a “brutal police chief”. It said it had targeted both him and Gen Miller, but the Pentagon denied that the US commander was among the key targets.
For me, he was a personal hero. I know of his exploits and I respected him as a hero of Afghanistan.
It is time for the people of Afghanistan to step up. To throw off the yoke that the Taliban would place upon their necks. There can be no return to public shootings of women in the Kabul Olympic stadium. There can be no return to executions and beatings because a man has not grown a fist full of beard or is late to Masjid on Juma.
It is time for the people of Afghanistan to deny these insane rumors and to tell the Talban that they cannot rule them. That they will not allow a return to Taliban interpreted Sharia.
The United States would be insane to have done so.
Who profited and continues to profit from the death of LTG Raziq? ONLY THE TALIBAN!
“If there is a paradise on earth, it is this, it is this, it is this!” is the inscription on Zahiruddin Muhammad Babur’s Mausoleum in Kabul, Afghanistan. Of all the cities conquered by Babur Khan in the founding of the Moghul Empire, Kabul held a special place of honor in his heart. It was his city of dreams. It was the city that gave rise to his empire. In 1504, Babur came out of the mountains of Ghor after having traveled through snowdrifts higher than the tallest of his men. Those mountains and those surrounding all of Kabul are part of the Hindu Kush (aka the Hindu Killer). Babur would cross those mountains again in his conquest of the Punjab. His descendants would build beautiful edifices such as the Taj Mahal. Babur himself died in Delhi and was interred in a Mausoleum in Agra despite his fervent desire to be buried in Kabul. Some years later, his son Humayun is said to have moved his remains to Kabul where they were laid in what came to be known as the Bagh-e Babur or Babur’s Gardens.
Kabul predates the great Mughal Emperor by some two to three thousand years. The city has seen it’s share of famous visitors — Genghis, of course, being one of the most famous. Seven hundred years later, the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and take the capital. Not long after the Soviet invasion, events that would lead to the American invasion were set in motion.
On a dark winter night in 1979 not long after the Soviets occupied Afghanistan, the people of Kabul gathered on their rooftops. The men yelled “Allahu Akhbar” and fired Kalashnikov rifles into the air. The women sounded off as well. They stood on their rooftops ululating in the time honored manner of Islamic women sending their men off to war. This signaled the beginning of the Mujahideen insurgency in Central and Eastern Afghanistan. A decade later, Soviet Lieutenant General Boris Gromov walked across the the Amu Darya River as the last Soviet soldier to depart Afghanistan.
Almost immediately after the Soviets departed, the Mujahideen commanders fell into civil war fighting for control of the country. Kabul had been largely untouched by the Mujahideen insurgency during the Soviet occupation. The city was not so fortunate at the hands of the Mujahideen. The Mujahideen commanders such as Rashid Doostum and Gulbuddin Hekmetyar staked out areas like street gangs in American ghettoes and proceeded to bombard each other with captured Soviet Artillery and Armor. Whole neighborhoods were flattened. The Mujahideen raped, pillaged and brought near complete destruction to Kabul. What the Soviets had left untouched, the Mujahideen had virtually destroyed. The residents of the Kabul who had earlier greeted the Mujahideen as liberators from the Soviet puppets now fled the city to refugee camps in Pakistan, Iran and out to Europe via Central Asia.
After a series of defeats and setbacks at the hands of the Ahmad Shah Massoud led Northern Alliance, the Taliban entered Kabul. They were hailed as conquering heroes and restorers of law and order. They wasted little time in declaring the new Islamic Caliphate of Afghanistan. They emplaced sharia as the law of the land and replaced Radio Kabul with Radio Sharia. Soon thereafter, televisions, music and dancing were outlawed. Girl schools were closed. Women were confined to the home or forced to wear the burqa in public. Men were made to grow beards and shave their heads on pain of public beating. Religious police brutally beat Afghans for the slightest infractions. There were beard patrols that checked to ensure that beards were at least fist length meaning that if the religious police grabbed one’s beard in his fist and one’s beard did not protrude from the bottom of his fist, you were beaten. The five daily prayers were made mandatory. Any Muslim who was late or not in attendance was beaten flailed mercilessly. Public executions and medieval punishments became the norm in Kabul’s Olympic Stadium.
A few years after the Taliban took Kabul, Osama bin Laden sought political refuge in Afghanistan. The Saudis had stripped him of his citizenship. The United States had pressured Sudan into deporting bin Laden from his safe haven in Khartoum. Osama contacted Mullah Omar and was given permission to fly with his family and entourage into the country. Osama took up residence in the South at Karnak Farms but had other places of refuge throughout the South and East.
It was from Afghanistan that Osama planned his 9-11 attacks. Once those plans were carried out and the Twin Towers fell, President George Bush demanded that Mullah Omar surrender Osama or suffer the consequences. Mullah Omar refused to bow to Washington’s pressure. The invasion started soon thereafter and Kabul fell in short order.
An Afghan friend told me that he sat on a place called Antenna Hill overlooking Kabul as the rockets fell on the city. He watched as Coalition forces entered the city from the North and East and the Taliban fled to the South. I visited Antenna Hill while I was in Afghanistan. The whole of the city is visible from that vantage. I could imagine events unfolding as they had in 2001. Six year later in 2007, I was returning to Kabul for a third time. This time, I would spend eight weeks preparing to train Afghan Police in Western Afghanistan.
A series of explosions rocked Camp Gazi, a Coaltion Base outside of Kabul, today. The blast was felt as far away as Camp Alamo. It was reported that the explosion was accidental. They were set off by an engineer igniting a series of propane tanks while he was working near them at the Ford Plant on Jalalabad Road. Here’s an account on the ground: “Tuesday 3 July 1400 and I have just made the arduous 3 day journey back to camp Alamo from Canada after 21 days of glorious leave, yes back to the mundane grind of daily routine and dealing with mindless petty orders issued by our commanders. So its just after lunch and the building shakes, a feint boom could be heard over the 2 air conditioners running on bust in the office, “that was an explosion;” say’s our resident Romanian born Canadian HQ’s Cpl, “yes it was i say” and we head out. Of course my Battle rattle is in my room so i make my way there as the alarm sounds “BUNKER,BUNKER, BUNKER THIS IS NOT A DRILL” so I’m on my way back down the narrow alley toward my PEB when another detonation occurs, right in front of me, or so it felt, a huge plume of fire and smoke raise up in behind my PEB and I decide that I will take the bunker without my kit instead of risk moving onto the 2nd floor to retrieve it. I move back to bunker 2 as the last time we were under attack i was in bunker 1 which was extremely arduous on the body (6 hrs of kneeling on gravel in a really confined area) so bunker 2 we’re standing there (boss and I) and we’re calling the guys who are spread all over the camp. So we get a hold of the guys and over the span of about 30 minutes we are rocked I’d say 3 more times, and then hear some small arms fire which i figured was friendly, i thought to myself, self those booms were way to big to be RPG’s and 5-6 suicide bombers is a large scale attack, I just didn’t think it was an attack and later on I turned out to be right, apparently the Ford dealership, across from Camp Gazi has several 50,0000 lt propane tanks which were “accidentally” detonated by an inept Afghan electrician, the result was 3 of these beasts detonating causing several hundred casualties and vaporizing a number of others, the small arms fire I heard was from Camp Waton where the guards fired warning shots above a panicked crowd of injured and terrorized locals attempting to escape by scaling the walls of the camp. Once the all clear was given the Doc went next door to see how the KMTC TMC was handling itself and reported back, the next day we sent a crew over to Gazi to check on our Greeks who were just about to head back to Greece. On arrival the story told by the Greek OC was one of terror as the site of the explosion was adjacent to the camp with only the Hesco walls saving they’re bacon, “I thought it was a nuclear bomb” says the Krakken, poor bastards, “I looked out my window and saw 3 men running on fire” these were likely ANP who were manning a check point. Of course later that night one of the duty TOC guys accidentally hit the switch activating the SECFOR alarm which pretty much had me up the rest of the night coupled with my jet lag, “welcome back Sir”, I received a disproportionate number of welcome backs due to the situation.” If the Taliban don’t kill ya, incompetent fools are now trying to do the job for them.
If you think about it, this is most heinous. A most heinous decision.
Obama swapped out five Gitmo prisoners for a guy who deserted and sought out the Taliban. The Obama Administration has constantly and consistently lied about the whole Bergdahl travesty. Bergdahl and family continue to be silent about the whole affair when before the family was consistent in their criticism of the American War on Terror.
Obama then refused to pay a ransom for a guy who was out there trying to find out the truth about ISIS and American policy in the Middle East.
Transparency, hope, change…Where are these ideals in the Obama Administration.
And please…PLEASE do not mention the ACA which was/is nothing more than a profit guarantor for Democratic and Obama Campaign contributors such as Pfizer, Humana, Aetna and other “Health,” Insurance and Pharmaceutical Industry giants.
Face it Democrats, Obama pulled the wool over your eyes. He’s George W. Bush the Democrat.
Hail Caeser! The Scum of the Universe.
Eat your bread and enjoy the Circus idiot Obama Zombies.
When we depart Afghanistan, we will be leaving thousands of partners who aided the US/Coalition effort.
Leaving them to their fate.
These folks, who are ALL MUSLIM, have risked their lives for meager pay. We pay them anywhere from 150.00 to 3000.00 monthly average but most make closer to 800.00USD. In the meantime, thousands of them have been beaten, threatened kidnapped and at the extreme murdered in cold blood along with their families.
I have huge problems with Islam and what I call the “Muslim mentality.” That said, these folks, all of whom are Muslim have aided in our efforts against the insurgency, al Qaeda and the Taliban. They’ve put their lives on the line for their country, for the US & Coalition and for us.
I can’t not admire that and I can’t help but feel some sense of shame for we shall abandon them just as we abandoned the Vietnamese, Lao, Khmer and, more recently, the Iraqis.
We did not have to come here. They did not have to accept us. Nonetheless, we came. We stirred up the hornet’s nest. We shall depart hailing ourselves as the Great Bringers of Democracy and Liberty.
They will stay, suffer and die. We are culpable here in the Stan just as we are for the events transpiring in Fallujah and Mosul.
I knew this kid. He works in a nan shop in Kabul right near where I was. I bought bread from him two or three times a week. I used to give him a Snickers bar when I bought fread. Five of those “loaves” hanging behind Petraeus cost about 1USD (50 Afs). Best bread in the world.
Dan Bolger and commanders such as him are “why we lost” in Afghanistan. I witnessed the results of Dan Bolger as Commanding General in Afghanistan. He may have been personally courageous and that’s fine. His decision to ground everyone on FOBs and bases and to make us all targets by mandating all travel in MRAPs, MATVs and giant uparmored SUVs (aka Taliban Targets) has negatively affected the mission and, in my opinion, has directly contributed to the deaths of military and civilians.
I worked with MPRI in Afghanistan. The whole of the time that I was with MPRI, one MPRI civilian was killed. He was traveling in a military convoy. Since Bolger’s change, the losses have kept on coming. Why? Because he turned us into targets when, before, we had always been anonymous. A decade into a war, Bolger felt that we had lost and his decision reflected that attitude. Bolger wasn’t trying to win. He was trying to survive without hurting his career. I wasn’t impressed and I’m still not impressed.
His decision to Fobbitize the whole of the country has caused this war to be lost. His attitude bled down to the troops. “Oh…it’s dangerous out there. We can’t do that.” It’s a war zone. Of course, it’s dangerous. You drive on and accomplish the mission. Prior to Bolger, a great part of the force was camouflaged…concealed and could move about the country relatively unnoticed. We blended in. After Bolger, we all had great big huge bulls eyes on our backs. Bolger’s defeatism led directly to his preconception that it was a losing effort becoming a reality. He carried defeatism into the battle and left his mark. He is one of the architects of defeat.
I’ve walked the streets of Kabul alone. And? Personal bravery. Awesome. Personal bravery doesn’t always translate to wise or courageous leadership. George Armstrong Custer was a brave individual. He was a suicidal commander. Gen. John Hood was a courageous man. Yet, his recklessness led to massive defeat. Gen. McClellan was a courageous man. Yet, his unwillingness to commit, lack of resolve and over-caution led to his defeat and ultimate relief of command. Grant abhorred the carnage of war. Sherman lost control of his sanity temporarily over his belief of what his war would become. Yet, both men committed and led their commands to victory by using the resources at hand and taking the fight to the enemy.
Why do people trust the new administration or the last administration? How is it possible?
Each Presidential Administration in the past 100 years has been proven to have lied to the Citizenry of this nation. It has been proved that each of these persons and their underlings have lied, connived, circumvented the Constitution and profited from doing so.
Yet, we still believe that this one…yes, this one, the last one and the next one is, was or will be telling us the truth.
Americans are this pathetically stupid?
I keep going back to Johnny Walker Lindh. This guy was paraded in front of America as if he were the blood soaked re-incarnation of Tamerlane.
In the end, he was naught but a drug addled boy who had never handled a gun and was rounded up amongst a group of half assed “talibs” like cattle.
The dude did nothing. His crime was being in the wrong place at the wrong time and refusing to admit guilt when he was really guilty of nothing.
Yet, he was railroaded through our justice system and sentenced to prison.
Our system of justice is warped or perhaps, there is no justice in America. There is only those who have the funds to manipulate the legal system and those who do not. Woe be unto those who do not have the means to fight and go against the grain.
I am supposedly a free man from a country governed by the principles of Liberty, yet, they tell me that I need permission to travel to Cuba.
The rules of engagement under which Obama and Petraeus has the American Military operating concedes the unnecessary deaths of Soldiers and Marines in Combat in the hopes that it will make our enemies like us.
Just three months after the raid by Navy SEAL Team VI that killed Osama bin Laden, those same SEALs were in the news yet again–but for an entirely different reason.
On August 6, 2011, while on their way to assist an ongoing mission in Wardak Province, Afghanistan, the CH-47D Chinook helicopter that they were riding in was shot down by an RPG fired by a Taliban fire team approaching their landing zone in Tangi Valley. All 38 American and Afghan service members who were aboard perished, including 17 Navy SEALS, 5 Navy Special Operations support personnel, 3 Air Force Special Tactics Airmen and the five-man Chinook crew, marking the largest loss of life in America’s 11 years of military operations in Afghanistan. Twenty of the twenty-two SEALs and SEAL support were from SEAL Team VI (DEVGRU).
The parents of one of the SEALs killed in the Chinook attack, Special Operations Chief Aaron Vaughn, are raising questions about how the Obama administration has pushed the limits of the military’s Special Operations Forces as part of its war policy (e.g. the Feb. 20th Newsweek story, “Obama’s Secret Army”), and how constrictive “rules of engagement” intended to win the “hearts and minds” of the Afghan people directly contributed to the deaths of all those aboard the helicopter.
Why are we still engaged in Afghanistan? According to many, the people do not want us there. Karzai is making love to the Pakistanis and the Taliban. Essentially, we have conceded the initiative to the enemy.
The Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF), all of the Ministries, the Parliament and Karzai are corrupt and bent on siphoning off all AID that is supposed to be going to build Afghanistan into a viable Nation.
Why are we still in Afghanistan?
Our enemies hate us. Our allies do not respect us. This is the reality in Afghanistan.
To make matters worse, we are so hellbent on becoming loved by our enemies that we are alienating our so called allies in the region and making no headway with our enemies and it is destroying all of our efforts at nation building.
Why are we still there?
Can anyone tell me why?
We should buy 33 Million of these t-shirts and drop them out C130s as we leave Afghanistan so that the Afghans will know that we thought that they were a complete waste of our time.
A Down and Dirty History of Operation Enduring Freedom
BOHICA ~ Bend Over Here It Comes Again
Operation Enduring Freedom ~ War Without End
On 11 September 2001, the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center came tumbling down in an immense cloud of smoke. Osama bin Laden hiding in his base camp in the mountains of Eastern Afghanistan had planned one of the most audacious attacks in American history. Two commercial aircraft flew into the World Trade Center buildings, one flew into the Pentagon and, finally, a final hi-jacked commercial airliner went down in a field in Pennsylvania after the passengers onboard regained control of their 747 from the Arab terrorists.
A few months later, American CIA and US Army Special Forces, on the orders of George W. Bush, invaded Afghanistan. The US CIA and Special Forces teams linked up with Rashid Doostum and other commanders of the Northern Alliance. They used US Military technology to bombard the Taliban and their mercenary Pushtoon allies back to Southern Afghanistan finally defeating the Taliban in Qandahar.
The invasion of Afghanistan was a “good war.” We were making the world safe for democracy. We were bringing humanity, women’s right and freedom to the people of Afghanistan. We were liberators. This was no war on Islam or the religious principles or culture of Afghanistan and it’s people. America was leading the world in the fight against a new darkness. The old propaganda was pulled out of the dust bins of history. Communism and fascism were replaced by Islamic extremism. This was a Global War on Terror. It was a war that Don Rumsfield and Dick Cheney said might last forever. It was an endless war that would bring light and democracy to the dark, unwashed masses of the Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa.
What most of the US Public weren’t told was that many of the Pushtoon commanders who fought with the Taliban up to 2001 were bribed into switching sides. Afghan Warlords have always been quick to abandon a losing cause. During the Mujahideen Wars that followed the 1988 Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, Warlords such as Birhanuddin Rabbani, Rashid Doostum and Hektmetyar Gulbuddin switched sides so often that American Intelligence officials following the war could not keep up with who was on whose side. After being targeted by massive bombing runs by US Military Aircraft guided by US Special Forces soldiers, the North fell swiftly. These Warlords were not willing to fight against aircraft from which they had no defenses. With the writing on the wall, Warlords who had jumped to the Taliban cause a few years earlier accepted massive bribes to join the Coalition cause.
These were the same Warlords who believed in the message of the Taliban. The burqa, sharia, harsh punishments for petty crimes, honor killings, tribalism were the calling cards of these men. These men were no different than Mullah Omar who founded the Taliban movement. Later, Barack Obama would re-define these men as “moderate Taliban.” The only difference between these Warlords and the minions of Mullah Omar were a willingness to take million dollar bribes and to smile at Western cameras. These same men fought alongside the Taliban in the dark of night while treating with us in the light of day.
The plan that got us into bed with these Warlords was initially designated Operation Infinite Justice. The “Muslim street” was outraged again. Infinite justice could only be provided by Allah. The idea of the West providing infinite justice in the Muslim world was another manifestation of the crusader ethos that so offended the Muslim mind. Infinite justice was only possible with Allah. George Bush, whose crusader remarks earlier in the year had caused protests throughout the Muslim World, caved to Muslim sentiment. Ironically, the crusades were a reaction to Islamic Imperialism brought on by the original caliphates wars of conquest against the West. Now, Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda were fighting to bring about a New Caliphate resulting in a similar military backlash from the West. Revisionist history and political correctness resulted in the invasion of Afghanistan being re-designated Operation Enduring Freedom.
Enduring Freedom was an immediate tactical success. US and Coalition forces rolled up the taliban within a few months. However, it’s strategic success was short lived. President Bush, fearing American reaction to flag draped caskets on the evening news, tried to outsource the war to the Afghans and failed to provide covering forces to block the escape of al Qaeda and Taliban leadership. Bin Laden and Mullah Omar trotted out of Afghanistan and into mountains of Pakistan on horseback with the aid of the Musharraf’s Inter Services Intelligence. Rumors at the time had bin Laden slipping into the wild and unruly autonomous Northwest Frontier Province minutes ahead of US Special Forces. The border problem was compounded by the fact that many of the Taliban were Pakistani soldiers in mufti. The Pakistan Army refused to fire on fleeing taliban soldiers and leadership. The Paki Mullah Generals had beefed up Taliban forces in the years before 9-11 with it’s own soldiers. Pakistani soldiers feared firing on fleeing Taliban as they may well have been killing brothers or cousins. Apparently, the only person in the world who didn’t know this was George Bush.
By the time I arrived in Bagram in November of 2003, the Taliban had been defeated and were fighting a low level insurgency that would wax and wane over the next decade. American and World resolve to see through the mission of building democracy was lukewarm despite the glorious rhetoric of the Bush administration. Democracy, women’s rights and equality for ethnic and religious minorities would never get off the ground. By November of 2003, Islamic Law (aka Sharia) would be enshrined into Afghan constitutional law. The Women and Minorities of Afghanistan became victims of the great American military tradition of BOHICA — bend over here it comes again.
George and Laura Bush talked a good game concerning Human Rights. Barack and Michelle Obama gave equal lip service to these ideas. As soon as Sharia was voted into the Afghan Constitution, women and minority rights became a lost cause. In the end, we traded lofty goals and humanity for support from the same warlords who had only months earlier fought with the Taliban. Operation Enduring Freedom would ultimately become Operation Epic Failure.
That said, I don’t want to hear it. Almost any time that an enemy combatant is captured in the Muslim world, they’re beaten, kicked and dragged through the streets. If an enemy combatant is killed and the body is somehow left in possession of the taliban or whomever in the Muslim world, that body is mutilated, dragged through the streets, kicked, beaten, sexually molested, sodomized with clubs and sticks and rifle barrels. They hang dead bodies from light poles and light them on fire.
The taliban is most guilty of this behavior.
If a Westerner is captured by the taliban, expect to be beaten and then beheaded.
Yet, the Media, Hamid Karzai, the taliban jumped on this event like it was the worst behavior ever witnessed in the history of mankind. They even issued a statement speaking to the horrifying torturous behavior. Stating that the US Military is trained to terrorize the world.
Of course, Hamid Karzai the hypocrite has issued a statement condemning the behavior. He issues a statement anytime someone other than an Afghan does something terrible. When Afghans do something or the Taliban, who, let’s face it, are mostly Pakistani, Karzai is strangely silent.
Our politicians, led by Hillary Clinton, fell all over themselves lining up to apologize and condemn this behavior “in the most strong terms possible.”
Al Jazeera has been running this story every ten seconds. It makes me laugh. Go back and run those pictures of the taliban beheading Gurkha soldiers down in Qandahar. Run the pictures of Najibullah being hung from a telephone pole in Kabul. He hung there for weeks. Run those photos of Muslims sodomizing Qaddafi again. Run the photos of the Blackwater guys being dragged through the streets in Fallujah.
5 or 6 Marines. They look to be around 20 years old. They acted foolishly. There is no doubt. They pissed on dead bodies. Dead bodies of taliban who more than likely have done much worse than pissing on a corpse or two. Let’s not kid ourselves here. Those dead enemy combatants when they were alive belonged to the most heinous gang of monsters to run across the pages of history. They’re lucky that a few drops of urine were all that dropped on them. The taliban are the most disgusting and decrepit group of genocidal criminals in history. They’re 100 times more monstrous than Stalin or Hitler. These people are criminals who are not deserving of human dignity. How concerned were the taliban with human dignity when they were the power in Afghanistan? How concerned were they with human dignity when they forced women to confine themselves to their homes and starve to death because there was no male family member extant to take them to the market to purchase food. How concerned were the taliban with human rights when they captured US and ISAF soldiers and desecrated their bodies? How concerned are the taliban with human dignity when they’re attempting to assissinate Malalai Joya and other dissidents in Afghanistan.
A taliban spokesman speaking about human rights and human dignity is comparable to Hitler talking about respect and love for Jews and Judaism. It’s farcical. I’d rather listen to Iran talk about human rights for homosexuals and freedom for woman. It’s the same thing.
I’m disgusted that we’re talking to the taliban at all. We should be annihilating them. The taliban are inhuman. They’re disgusting, child molesting monsters. They should be treated exactly as we treated Hitlers minions. Every last one of them. Hunt them down and kill all of them.
All of this whining about a squad of Marines pissing on a few talib djinn is fluff. It’s beside the point. Punish the Marines for being complete Jackasses and then get on with annihilating the taliban once and for all.
And then, we have this:
The Council on Islamic-American Relations, a prominent Muslim civil rights and advocacy group based in Washington, quickly condemned the video.
“We condemn this apparent desecration of the dead as a violation of our nation’s military regulations and of international laws of war prohibiting such disgusting and immoral actions,” the group wrote in a letter faxed to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta.
Would CAIR give a damn about this incident if these taliban were not Muslims? I’d say no. Not at all. Did CAIR send a fax to the taliban the last time that they desecrated the dead. I doubt it. Hypocrites.
The difference between the US/West and the Taliban could not be more obvious in times like this. The taliban celebrates this behavior when their people act in this way. America and Americans condemn it. America and the West will punish those responsible for behavior like this. The Taliban would celebrate and reward such behavior.
So, please, Mr. Taliban Spokesman, please. Shut the hell up.
“If you stand back,” said one American who is in the thick of the American strategy-making, “and say, by the year 2020, you’ve got two countries — 30 million people in this country, 200 million people with nuclear weapons in this country, American troops in neither. Which matters? It’s not Afghanistan.”
This article is a primer on the future of the region. It’s a must read, if you want to understand the future of American relations in this region.
Special attention to Pakistani views of the Afghan National Security Forces.
Islamic Extremism began before America was founded. It existed in our early days. It was there in the Barbary Pirates. It was there before our Revolution in the Nejd being fought against by other Muslims. It existed long before we started our foray into the World as a power of any great importance (real or imagined).
Islamic Extremism has been there since the beginning of Islam. Islam was born in blood. It was born extreme. The first act of Muhammad was to use Islam as a tool to capture Mekkah and to turn the pagan shrines there into Islamic Shrines with the Ka’aba as it’s center.
What we know in the modern era as Islamic Extremism was started by al Wahhab. Al Wahhab was a Cleric born in the late 1700s. He assisted the Saudi Family in their ultimately successful efforts to conquer Arabia. Afterwards, his adherents became so violent that they were put down by the Egyptians at the behest and with the approval and thanks of the Ottomans.
The Muslim Brotherhood traces it’s philosophical founding to al Wahhab. All Islamic Terrorism groups not sponsored directly by Iran and even some of those such as Hezbollah, the Quds Force and Hamas trace their philosophical foundings and their violence back through the Muslim Brotherhood to al Wahhab.
I find it amusing when Westerners who are wholly ignorant of the history of Islam and it’s people wax poetic about how America or the West is to blame for Islamic Extremism.
Islam began as a tiny desert cult or sect in the deserts of Arabia. It conquered it’s way via Holy War from Central Asia and Western China to India and Indonesia to parts of Southeast Asia thorugh Asia Minor into Eastern Europe down through the Middle East and the Levant to North Africa and into the African Interior ending in Spain.
This peaceful religion then sided with the Germans in both World Wars I and II. Syria and Egypt then sided with communism and the Soviet Union.
I suppose that is peaceful as compared to a pacifist community or two…
Currently, Islam is used to justify African Slavery, Holy Jihad and suicide bombs, Airplane Hi Jackings, Clitorectomies on young women, the chattel slavery and oppression of millions of women across the Islamic world and in the West, execution of homosexuals, honor killings of sisters, mothers and wives for the slightest of reasons.
It is a given that not all Muslims practice these things or approve of such things. It is a given that the leadership of Islam is weak and vacillating. Relying on oppression and duplicity to remain in power.
Yes, Christians have done ugly things as well. That said, Christians, for the most part, are not doing these things now.
There is no mainstream movement in Christianity that calls for the Bible as Christian Law. No mainstream movement that calls for the execution of infidels, homosexuals or women based on Christian law.
This does not exist in the West. Not in the mainstream.
There are loons and fools a plenty. None of them get the time of day from the majority of the Western World including adherents to the Christian faith.
The world would be better off without Islam and Christianity. That much I believe. Individual Christians and even smaller organizations are fine. It is primarily the politicized and the mainstream fundamentalist Christians with whom I have a problem. Christianity has done much harm. The belief in Jesus of Nazareth and those who follow the actual teachings of Christ have been a great boon to the world at large. Christianity as we know it is a perversion created by the State of Rome as a mechanism of control. It was also used by the Monarchies of Europe to further their power and political aims. Jesus, I believe, would not approve of what we have called Christianity for the past 1600 plus years.
We’d find others things over which to fight.
The West is not to blame for Islamic Extremism.
America is not to blame for Islamic Extremism. It pre-dates America herself and it certainly pre-dates American Global Power.
Someone someday might successfully explain to me how something that existed before her birth is the fault of America. As of this date, no such person has arisen.
Only fools who know nothing of history.
Not all Muslims are enemies of Liberty and Freedom. Not all Muslims would force their brand of religion on others. Even so, there are many Muslims who would. Radicals are always the more powerful force in history. Moderates will usually fight for nothing. Pacifists will not fight. Those who believe in nothing will not fight for their vision of life on the planet.
This is the danger of Islamic Extremism. The radicals are willing to fight and to die for that in which they believe. Ignore that at your own peril–as many have done before.
On the Muslim World
Muslims see themselves as a community. They always have and always will. The only way to stop that is to kill all of them. Christians think of themselves as a community as well. Christendom is a concept only recently gone out of fashion. There are mentions of Christendom from the 19th Century, I know. Europe was still speaking of Christendom until only recently. I think Churchill mentions it a few times. That was the 20th Century. It is not a foreign concept to think in terms of a World Wide Religious or Cultural community. We think of the West. The West is Christian. No matter how greatly this is denied by atheists and secularists within the West. The West is merely a more secular term for Christendom. The West is as guilty of this kind of speak as is Islam. The difference is that we, in the West, agree with Western Culture. We don’t see it as problem and arrogantly believe that the rest of the World should be overjoyed to join us. Muslim lands. Christan lands. During World War I and at the end of World War I, “The West” celebrated the return of the “Holy Land” to it’s rightful Christian hands by virtue of it’s capture after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire encompassed most of what we now speak of as the Middle East. Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Palestine, Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and a few others were all part of the now defunct Ottoman Empire. This was considered the Muslim World or the Lands of the Mohamadens (Saracens) and spoken and written about as such by Christian or “Western” writers and historians. That some in our era do not understand the concept of Muslim lands is fairly meaningless. The Great Tides of History are against their ignorance. It’s simply that they are ignorant of the history of the region. Not their fault. Our schools are more interested in Political Correct thought processes than learning. If one truly desires to rail against this concept and this ideology, though, one should at least be aware of this history. Me, I don’t care what history says about Muslim lands. Prior to the Muslims, these lands were all Western (Roman) and/or Christian. Not that Christians ruled them justly either.
History also shows us that the most violent and war like culture wins out in the end. The winners determine the future and control history. Except in our current era, where idiotic pacifists, socialist, multi-culturalists and self defeatists in the West want to write history based strictly upon their feelings of guilt and ignorance of history. They remind me of mini-Pol Pot or Mao Tse Tung pretenders. The greatest threat to the West (Christendom) is not the Muslims or even Communist China. It is the 5th Column of corrupt leftists and extreme liberals within our own borders. In order to finally defeat the Islamic threat, we will need to defeat this 5th Column by making them irrelevant.