Arab-Israeli Cultural PTSD

Hassan al-Banna, founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, quoted in the New York Times in 1948:

“If the Jewish state becomes a fact, and this is realized by the Arab peoples, they will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea.”

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In 1948, the Arabs were not willing to allow an independent Israeli (Jewish) State. The Arabs wanted Arabs to rule the area as part of a Muslim Nation. Once the war kicked off after the Israelis declared independence, the Arabs attacked.

There was no mention of a Palestinian Nation. The Arabs immediately began to speak of massacre and running the Jews into the sea and turning the Mediterranean Red with the blood of the Jews. Prior to the Balfour and Sykes-Picot agreements, the Arab-Jewish relations were fairly calm and agreeable. Once the Brits pulled their various deceits, the bottom of the amity barrel dropped out into a pit of poisonous acrimony between Arab Muslim and Jew.

Once the Jews committed to Independence, war was all but inevitable. Golda Meir spoke with the Jordanian King and asked if amity was possible. He said no. Israel declared Independence nonetheless. The Arabs expected the Jews to allow themselves to be ruled by Muslims. They expected the Jews to be satisfied as subjects with little to no say about their governance. The Jews refused to accept this.

The Arabs refused to allow Israel to become a State without a bloodletting. The Arabs maintained a war of attrition against Israel until 1982 with the realization that Israel had a finite population. The Palestinian Statehood question only came about AFTER the sound defeat in 1967. Prior to that, the only Palestinian State was Trans-Jordan now called Jordan. (The Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan)

Arafat was posted in Palestine as the Head of he PLA. He was theretofore an Officer in the Egyptian Army. He maintained a home in El Arish until he died most likely from HIV/AIDS. (I’ve seen his home). The Arabs warred upon the Israelis constantly from 1948 until 1980s when Sadat made piece with Begin.  Whilst the peace between Israel and Egypt was being crafted, the PLO began its storied history of terrorism and general political murder of civilians.

There has been nearly 70 years of constant war between the Israelis and some body of Arabs. Yet, folks act as though they are surprised that the Israelis see the Palestinians as inhuman enemies. The Palestinian State is merely one more iteration of Arab animosity towards the Jews. It is a continuation of previous hostilities to the Jews/Israelis.

It is exceedingly difficult to view a people who have been trying to destroy you as humans. For many Israelis, they were born into war and have never known anything else. They have been attacked constantly in one form or another since May of 1948. And it surprises so many that a people who more than likely collectively suffer from PTSD would act insane and not give a damn about the state of the Palestinian people.

Amazing.

It has been recognized internationally that Khmers and Afghans suffer from collective cultural PTSD. I’m quite certain that both Israel and Palestine suffers similarly.

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The State of Israel may want to read this!

The State of Israel may want to read this:

Leviticus 19:33 — “‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

I’m still opposed to the establishment of another Islamic Totalitarian Puppet State, though.

Israel has the Right to live under a Government of their choosing! They have the right to exist as they are now.

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Right:

18. a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral: You have a right to say what you please.

19. Sometimes, rights. that which is due to anyone by just claim, legal guarantees, moral principles, etc.: women’s rights; Freedom of speech is a right of all Americans.

Their claim to the land in which they lived. Their claim to the land which they purchased. Their right to live under governance of their own choosing as opposed to being forced to live under an Islamic Despotic State.

My opinion is that they had/have this right.

Would we deny this right to ourselves.

In 1948, there was no real and just governance or government in that region. It was a mandate. Once the mandate ended, the people should have been able to choose their form of government. The Muslim despots wanted to force all and sundry to live under Islamic rule or authoritarian, monarchic rule. The Jews did not wish to live in a state of that kind. They did not wish to live under a government that was wholly corrupt and historically pre-disposed to violence and genocide towards non-Muslims in general and Jews in particular.

Therefore, I say that the people of the area had a right to choose and fight for the governance of their liking. They had to right to fight to not be forced to live under Islamic rule.

If the Muslims didn’t like it, they had the choice to fight it. They have and they do.

I don’t think that we have blindly supported Israel. Anyone who resorts that that hyperbole is wholly ignorant of the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict or lying to make their point seem better.

The Israelis have more or less been our allies in the region since ’48. We have acted counter to their security interests at times. They have acted violently towards us and at times, they have acted counter to our national interests. Over all, we have acted with each other in accordance with the standard practices and behaviors of allies.

The Muslims have almost never acted as allies. More often that not, they have diabolically and diametrically opposite of how an ally would act towards us. The Arabs sided with the wrong side in World War I. The Arabs sided with Hitler in World War II. Going so far as to travel to Berlin to learn the art of the Final Solution so as to import it to the Middle East. In order so that they might use the Final Solution on the Jews of the Levant. In the Cold War, Syria and Egypt both sought to be non-aligned until they were obviously in the Soviet Camp. By then, it was obvious that non-alignment meant taking money from the West and Tactical/Strategic aid, advisors and equipment from the Soviets.

We should have severed ties with the Arabs decades ago.

The Israelis had just as much right to an Independent Nation in the areas that comprised the Palestine Mandate as did any other people who lived there. The Jews created the major cities. The Jews created the jobs to which the Arabs flocked in mass numbers in the area. If it weren’t for the Jews who live[d] in Palestine, there would be nothing over which to fight in the area.

If the Jews were to leave Palestine, they’d take with them their technology, their labor and the area would return to the dust from whence it sprang.

Economic right. They created the economy of Palestine. Were it not for the Jews, there’d be a few date farms and a few thousand sheep and some dusty old towns wherein lived naught but poverty stricken Muslims.

The Jews are the only reason that the area is worth having. Without them, there would be absolutely nothing there.

For a great example, look to the Sinai. When the Israelis occupied it, they civilized the land. Cultivated the land. Irrigated the land. They started pulling oil out of the Sinai. You can see the remains of the old Israeli settlements. Even as remains after having been bulldozed by the Israeli Gov’t in order to keep the settlers from returning, they’re still more habitable than the Arab/Egyptian towns. Oil production is almost nil. The ARabs can do almost nothing without outside assistance.

Israel had to go to Egypt and show the Egyptian government how to irrigate and desalinize to save their cotton crops. Egypt! One of the oldest civilization on the planet is no longer able to properly irrigate their crops without the assistance of Israeli science and technology.

The Israeli people had the right to choose the government under which they would live.

The Arabs wanted to force them to live under Muslim rule. The Arabs wanted submission.

That is why I can not, will not support he Arabs in this conflict.

The Israelis should have driven all of the Palestinian Arabs into Jordan. Jordan is the true homeland of the Palestinians.

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All of the Nations not in Blue are Muslim countries.  Yet, they [the Muslims] must have this spec of blue territory as well.  Why?

Number English Français עברית العربية
Israel / Israël 1 Israel Israël اسرائيل
Gaza strip & West Bank /
Bande de Gaza et Cisjordanie
2 Gaza strip Bande de Gaza
3 West Bank Cisjordanie
Arab Nations / Nations arabes 4 Morocco Maroc
5 Algeria Algérie
6 Tunisia Tunisie
7 Libya Libye
8 Sudan Soudan
9 Djibouti Djibouti
10 Somalia Somalie
11 Oman Oman
12 U.A.E. E.A.U.
13 Qatar Qatar
14 Kuwait Koweït
15 Mauritania Mauritanie
16 Comoros Comores
Have been in war with Israel /
Ont été en guerre avec Israël
17 Saudi Arabia Arabie Saoudite
18 Iraq Irak
19 Syria Syrie
20 Jordan Jordanie
21 Lebanon Liban
22 Egypt Egypte
23 Yemen Yemen