On the Middle East. Much of the violence in the Middle East can be directly traced to actions of outside interlopers since World War 1.
The Brits worked to place the Saudis in power after World War 1. America acted in concert with others to empower the House of Saud during and after World War II.
The Saudis are Wahhabis. The State Religion of Saudi Arabia is Wahhabist Islam. The Muslim Brotherhood is a Wahhabist Movement. Al Qaeda, al Jihad, ISIS and every other extremist Sunni Islamic organizations traces it’s origins to the Muslim Brotherhood and/or directly to the preachings of al Wahhab.
We created the beast which spawned the demons whom we fight in the War on Terror.
In the 50s, Kermit Roosevelt was sent by Ike and the Dulles Bros, at the behest of Britain and Anthony Eden, to depose Mossadegh who was Prime Minister of Iran. Mossadegh was deposed. The Shah was placed on the Peacock Throne of Iran by Kermit Roosevelt.
The Shah used his Savak to terrorize the people of Iran. He exiled Khomeini.
Carter weakened the Shah some 25 or 30 years later by speaking to Human Rights and withdrawing support.
Khomeini and his revolution are the progenitors of all Shi’a extremism. Khomeini and his Iranian Revolutionary Guards created Hezbollah.
No Kermit, no Shah. No Shah, no Khomeini. No Khomeini, no IRG. No IRG, no Hezbollah.
Vietnam plays a role here as well. Prior to Vietnam (and Iran), the US was seen as a champion of the downtrodden and a revolutionary victor over Colonialism.
After Vietnam, we became a colonial oppressor.
Cuba plays a role here as well. We attempted to deny Cuba self determination.
The US is no longer a champion of the oppressed people’s of Colonialism by our own actions. Instead, we are merely actors for Big Banks and Big Corporations.
This is how we are seen, with great justification, by much of the world.
Much of the terrorism aimed at us is directly attributable to our support of dictators and despots throughout the Middle East and Asia.
ISIS, al Qaeda and other Islamic Organizations feel that in order to take power from the House of Saud and other despotic regimes that they must attack us. We are the primary support for the Saudis and other despots. We have supported nearly every Sunni despot extant.
We supported Saddam before we deposed him. We gave him his initial batch of nerve agents and gave him the means to develop more. Then we used possession of these as rationale for attacking him.
We did the same thing to Noriega. As long as he was our man, we turned a blind eye to his drug trafficking. As soon as he decided that he wanted to go his own way, we defamed him and attacked him. I’ve read widely that the CIA actually assisted in his drug trafficking and money laundering before we turned on him.
The Middle East is a mess partially because the West disbanded the Ottoman Empire, partially because of the idiot Sukes-Picot agreement, partially because of oil profits, and partially because of the Sunni-Shi’a divide.
America has always pushed a divide and conquer agenda on the Middle East.
Now, we complain that they are divided and can’t or won’t come together.
If the Middle East were to come together as in the old days of the Qaliphate, does anyone think that they would do otherwise than what ISIS claims as a goal?
When we depart Afghanistan, we will be leaving thousands of partners who aided the US/Coalition effort.
Leaving them to their fate.
These folks, who are ALL MUSLIM, have risked their lives for meager pay. We pay them anywhere from 150.00 to 3000.00 monthly average but most make closer to 800.00USD. In the meantime, thousands of them have been beaten, threatened kidnapped and at the extreme murdered in cold blood along with their families.
I have huge problems with Islam and what I call the “Muslim mentality.” That said, these folks, all of whom are Muslim have aided in our efforts against the insurgency, al Qaeda and the Taliban. They’ve put their lives on the line for their country, for the US & Coalition and for us.
I can’t not admire that and I can’t help but feel some sense of shame for we shall abandon them just as we abandoned the Vietnamese, Lao, Khmer and, more recently, the Iraqis.
We did not have to come here. They did not have to accept us. Nonetheless, we came. We stirred up the hornet’s nest. We shall depart hailing ourselves as the Great Bringers of Democracy and Liberty.
They will stay, suffer and die. We are culpable here in the Stan just as we are for the events transpiring in Fallujah and Mosul.
I knew this kid. He works in a nan shop in Kabul right near where I was. I bought bread from him two or three times a week. I used to give him a Snickers bar when I bought fread. Five of those “loaves” hanging behind Petraeus cost about 1USD (50 Afs). Best bread in the world.
“I am not sure in what way even limited strikes help the people living in my constituency: how does this further Britain’s or America’s national security?
“There cannot be a sane person in Britain who would not think it a good thing for us to get involved in the war in Syria if by doing so it would ease the horrors faced by the Syrian people – and dire risks to people in neighbouring countries.
“We must be guided not by our alliance to America, but by our duty to understand that military force should only be used in support of a clear purpose and with a clear objective in mind – in support of our national interest. I am yet to be convinced that there is a strong and clear-cut case that military action will deter the Syrian government from using chemical weapons – nor am I convinced that in 20 years time some other tyrant thinking of using chemical weapons will turn around and say to his or herself “Whoops, better not do that: remember what Obama, Cameron and Hollande did back in the summer of 2013”.
“The use of chemical weapons was indeed a crime against all of humanity. But by firing one missile we are involving ourselves in a civil war on the side of a fractured opposition which includes people with proud links to Al Qaeda. By striking now, without clear cause and purpose, we risk consequences that we have not even thought of: this is a case of hit – and then hope.”
British MP Adam Holloway
“Justice has been done,” President Obama
Osama is DEAD DEAD DEAD. If there is no hell, May he burn eternally somewhere else. Good Job Obama and everyone else involved in the OP.
I doubt that they’ll ever display it. Hell, they should hang it from the Washington Monument in the exact same method that the extremist and illiterate rabble of the Muslim World would do if they captured Bush or any American/
really. Give the bastards a taste of their own medicine. But we’re too “civilized” for all that. More is the pity.
Some folks will spin this politically and attempt to deny Obama credit for taking Osama out. How could you not give him credit, though? Bush had chances to get him and failed. Clinton had chances to get him and failed. It took balls to order the strike. Took balls to order the mission. Took discipline to keep it secret for 6 months. Some leaders would have failed this test. Some leaders would have not wanted to risk the wrath of al Qaeda and other Muslim Extremist groups by taking Osama out.
I’m not a huge Obama fan by any stretch of the imagination, but, in my book, Obama gets big props from me for having the balls to carry this through. Period. That’s just me.
THE OBAMA OSAMA DEATH ANNOUNCEMENT
I love it.
I’m a huge Obama fan for this week, at least.
So long Osama. May you rot eternally in the fires of Gehena!
”I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.” – Mark Twain
I disagree with waging this “Shadow War” against al Qaeda.
Announce to the world that it is our intention to destroy al Qaeda. They attacked our Nation. They declared War. We did not. This is the War desired by Osama bin Laden and his motley crue of Wahhabist thieves, cuthroats and murderers. They wanted it. They got it.
Announce that we will strike al Qaeda wherever they exist. Wherever they hide. In any hole. On any mountain. On any sea. In any place where al Qaeda deems it necessary to plant a parasitic, violent bud, we shall strike to root it out before it takes root.
Announce that if al Qaeda is allowed to plant operatives or to exist unmolested by the local populace, said populace will be accountable for the actions of al Qaeda and said population will be accountable for any and all deaths resulting from al Qaeda and their brothers and sisters. The fault lies with the folks who cooperate with al Qaeda.
Tell the NGOs and Humitarian Organizations of whatever stripe that we do no hold ourselves accountable for the deaths surrnouding al Qaeda. Whether it be bullets, cluster bombs or fragments of US munitions or suicide vests and IEDs from insurgents or al Qaeda operatives.
We did not want this war. Nevertheless, we have it. We intend to prosecute the war to it’s conclusion. The conclusion is the destruction of al Qaeda and it’s subordinate and parallel organizaations in whatever part of the world it may exist.
After that announcement is made, we, The United States of America, should bomb the Nejd and every place sacred to the Wahhabis. We should invade Saudi Arabia and hold Mekkah hostage all the while allowing the Hajj to continue unmolested. Circulate rumours that we have planted a nuclear device under the Ka’aba along with the intent to detonate said device should a strike occur on US soil.
Also, we should pull out all military resources that protect or support or otherwise maintains the power of any Islamic despot. From Cairo to Iraq and Afghanistan. Tell the people of the Islamic World that their governance is now up to them. If they show that they are worthy and willing to fight for Democracy and their share of the delights of Liberty and Freedom that we will at a time, deemed opportune to us, intercede on their behalf. We will support no country that has as a defining point in their National Statement or
beliefs the destruction of Israel or any other Democracy. Period. We will support no Nation that has as part of it’s Constitiution
Immediately halt all support for Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq until they actually come on line with a WESTERN AGENDA as opposed to an Islamist agenda. I would like to end all support of Islamic Countries period. I would include the protection of their shipping on the sea lanes. Let Iran fight it out with the Sunnis and afterward step in to pick up the pieces. These parties would slaughter each other. The West should precipitate such a crisis and then step in and pick up the pieces after they’ve murdered 2/3rds of each others populations.
Shariah Law. We will support no Nation which has as part of it’s national belief system the enslavement or disenfranchisement of minorities or women.
After this, we strike out at al Qaeda wherever they surface. If locals are killed. It is their fault for not having rooted out al Qaeda or for having allowed al Qaeda to plant roots.
Eventually, they’ll get the message. If al Qaeda is there, missiles will rain down in holy terror. If no al Qaeda is there, no missiles will arrinve.
We must halt our support of terrorising despots. We must support freedom and liberty. We must defeat al Qaeda.
As of now, we are losing this war. Especially when we allow them to plant their seeds of terror in our own front yard.
It sounds awesome.
On the Muslim World
Muslims see themselves as a community. They always have and always will. The only way to stop that is to kill all of them. Christians think of themselves as a community as well. Christendom is a concept only recently gone out of fashion. There are mentions of Christendom from the 19th Century, I know. Europe was still speaking of Christendom until only recently. I think Churchill mentions it a few times. That was the 20th Century. It is not a foreign concept to think in terms of a World Wide Religious or Cultural community. We think of the West. The West is Christian. No matter how greatly this is denied by atheists and secularists within the West. The West is merely a more secular term for Christendom. The West is as guilty of this kind of speak as is Islam. The difference is that we, in the West, agree with Western Culture. We don’t see it as problem and arrogantly believe that the rest of the World should be overjoyed to join us. Muslim lands. Christan lands. During World War I and at the end of World War I, “The West” celebrated the return of the “Holy Land” to it’s rightful Christian hands by virtue of it’s capture after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire encompassed most of what we now speak of as the Middle East. Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Palestine, Israel, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and a few others were all part of the now defunct Ottoman Empire. This was considered the Muslim World or the Lands of the Mohamadens (Saracens) and spoken and written about as such by Christian or “Western” writers and historians. That some in our era do not understand the concept of Muslim lands is fairly meaningless. The Great Tides of History are against their ignorance. It’s simply that they are ignorant of the history of the region. Not their fault. Our schools are more interested in Political Correct thought processes than learning. If one truly desires to rail against this concept and this ideology, though, one should at least be aware of this history. Me, I don’t care what history says about Muslim lands. Prior to the Muslims, these lands were all Western (Roman) and/or Christian. Not that Christians ruled them justly either.
History also shows us that the most violent and war like culture wins out in the end. The winners determine the future and control history. Except in our current era, where idiotic pacifists, socialist, multi-culturalists and self defeatists in the West want to write history based strictly upon their feelings of guilt and ignorance of history. They remind me of mini-Pol Pot or Mao Tse Tung pretenders. The greatest threat to the West (Christendom) is not the Muslims or even Communist China. It is the 5th Column of corrupt leftists and extreme liberals within our own borders. In order to finally defeat the Islamic threat, we will need to defeat this 5th Column by making them irrelevant.
On Trust, Fear and Hate
Moderate Muslims do what moderates of all stripes do. They stay home and keep to themselves. It’s why their called moderates. Look, I absolutely abhor the Wahhabis and about 90% of the inane nonsense that is preached by these idiots and the Clerics and the IRG and Hizbollah and Hamas, etc. You won’t find many people who know as much about Islam as I AND who rails against that idiotic religion more than I. That said, the logic of the “hate, fear, [dis]trust” rhetoric here is flawed. I know many Muslims who want no part of the extremists. I know some “moderate” Muslims who feel threatened by the West. We have encroached upon their lands, their culture, their people. We’ve forced our way on them. It’s only natural that eventually there will be push back. If they did the same to us would we sit back and take it. There are regular, every day people out there who just happen to be Muslim. The majority of Muslims are like any other people. They observe their religion casually and don’t really get all that silly about it. Then you have the freaks. The Government of Iran and most of it’s Clerics, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and it’s pets — Hamas, the Quds Force and Hizbollah. You’ve got al Qaida and the Muslim Brotherhood, al Jihad and the rest of the off shoots from those gangs of criminals and miscreants. You can brand all Muslims as this or that about as much as you can brand all Americans as this or that. I’ve traveled, lived and worked amongst Muslims for over a decade. They’re not all bad people. Are all Christians bad because of the murderers of abortion doctors? Are all Texans bad because of the murderers who dragged that black kid in chains a decade ago. Are all Americans bad because of the criminals who take advantage of war and rape and pillage the people whom we are supposedly liberating? NO!
I don’t think that ALL Muslims distrust the West/America. I don’t think that ALL Muslims trust the West/America either. I’ve met Muslims who like and respect America who still don’t really trust us per se. They know that America is going to do what is right for America. This is correct. They understand this. Some of these people also understand the politics of America and know that we will change depending on the mood of the country and who we elect based upon that mood. America doen’t really have much continuity of ideals. We are ever evolving and constantly moving between the two political polars. Bush initiated the current Iraq war and Obama ran with our withdrawal as part of his platform. Many of the Muslims with whom I have dealt over the years understand this dynamic. Many of the Muslims with whom I have dealt know that America and the West have no real stomach for actual violence and war. Even though we love the fantasy of it. The enemies of the West and America understand this as well. They know that we’ll get riled and ramped up for a period of time. They also know that they can wait us out and we will grow impatient with a lack of result or too many dead bodies even when we are winning the greater war. They know that our ardor for war and patriotism has clear boundaries. They know that they can wait us out. The Muslim community and especially that part of it that hates the West/America knows that over time they can defeat us because we do not have the stomach for war. They know that the majority of the West has that pacifist strain that will eventually lead to our downfall. There are many Muslims out there who would love to ally themselves with the West and bring about a more or less secular Islam. These people, though, do not trust the West to help them see that struggle through to it’s conclusion. They know that their deaths and the end of this alliance is one Obama (or Carter) away. Even Reagan withdrew from Lebanon after the bombing there that killed 280+ Marines. Reagan stared Soviet Russia in the eye and still backed down quickly from the violence of Islam. It happens time and time again. Many Muslims love the West/America. They see the potential for a life of liberty and freedom AND Islam therein. Even so, they fear our inability to stay the course. They do not trust our fortitude especially in the face of adversity and violence of the type that the other extreme of Islam will bring to bear while fighting us.
In the West and amongst Modern Christianity, voicing one’s opinion that runs counter to the Extremists brings criticism and possibly ostracism. In the lands of Allah, criticizing the extremists brings violence and death. Who here, in the West, would raise his voice first with the full knowledge that it will bring death and/or violence to yourself and your family?
That’s about what I thought…
This is what happens to Muslims who speak out against Jihad and the battle against the West.
A moron claiming ties to al Qaeda has been caught attempting to blow his dumbass up on a Northwest Airlines flight out of Detroit with a bomb strapped to his leg. Abdul Mudallad, a 23-year-old Nigerian national, is the idiot here. May Allah slap his ass down and provide him with 70 Virgin vipers to eat at his innards for eternity.
This cake eatin’ fool actually made it through security with something strapped to his leg. I mean really…
Mr. Mudallad suffered 3rd-degree burns when the device detonated on approach to Detroit, according to Mr. King. He said none of the other passengers was seriously injured.
The man told investigators that he was given the device by al Qaeda operatives in Yemen, where he was also given instructions on how to detonate it, the U.S. official said.
“This guy claims he is tied to al Qaeda, specifically in Yemen,” the official said. “He claims he was on orders from al Qaeda in Yemen.”
How did he make it through security. When I go through security in the US, they all but make me strip down and prance around in circles naked.
As for al Qaeda. Are they that stupid? Or did they get this guy out of the looney bin or a homeless shelter?
Al Qaeda is scraping the bottom of the barrel these days.
Osama must have sent out a memo. “Give me your lame, blind, crippled and crazy! We’ll send ’em all through the airports with bombs strapped to their legs!”
Hey, one of the fuckin’ retards is bound to make it through to detonation.
Now. Not only are they demented, evil fucks, but, they’re a bunch of retarded fucks as well.
That said, I can’t decide who are the bigger bunch of worthless shitbags~ al Qaeda and their evil minions or TSA and their evil donut eatin’ minions. TSA and their merry band of miscreants actually let this guy pass through security and get on an airplane with a bomb strapped to his leg. Now, TSA HQ is going send out a Memo to it’s bunch of retards to up the ante and start scrutinizing little old white women even harder. I say we shoot the whole lot.
The hell of it, though, is that now TSA is going to start making everyone take off their pants at Security Checkpoints. That could be good or bad. Before ya know it, we’ll all be buck nekkid walkin’ through the airports. They’ll start issuing Speedos at the TSA pre-checkpoints.
Strip down and enjoy your flight.
We must realise that Islam is not our enemy. Muslims are not evil people. It is this virulent and violent form of Islam started by al Wahhab in the Nejd and spread like a plague across the globe by the Saudis in their oil funded madrassahs that are the enemy. The House of Saud must fall. Until it does, we will have these criminals amongst us and their numbers will continue to grow.
Osama bin Laden is but the latest thug to attempt to infect Islam with this disease through terror and violence. Study the history of Islam. Specifically, study the history of the Arabian Peninsula. Study the history of the British Raj of the late 1800s. Even the Ottomans fought the Wahhabis in the Nejd near the end of their Empire. There is precedent in history for the events of today. The Ottomans warred on the Nejd from Egypt in the 1700s and 1800s. Their fight was against these same followers of the doctrines of the apostate al Wahhab and the ancestors of the current Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Wahhabism must die. The sooner the better for all of the world– Muslims and non-Muslims alike.
A picture of the culprits. The criminals of the House of Saud and proliferates of the disease contracted from their forefathers.
Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Al-Wahhab ibn Sulaiman ibn Ali ibn Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Rashid Al-Tamimi (1703–1792) (Arabic: محمد بن عبد الوهاب التميمي) was an Islamic scholar born in Najd, in present-day Saudi Arabia. Despite never specifically calling for a separate school of Islamic thought, it is from ibn Abd-al Wahhab that the term Wahhabism derives.
This was due to the sayings of the prophet. Who said before his death, while on his death bed.
“May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets”.
Alliance with the House of Saud
Upon his expulsion from ‘Uyayna, Ibn Abd al-Wahhab was invited to settle in neighboring Dir’iyya by its ruler Muhammad ibn Saud in 1740 (1157 AH). Two of Ibn Saud’s brothers had been students of Ibn Abd al-Wahhab in Uyayna, and are said to have played a role in convincing Ibn Saud to take him in. Ibn Saud’s wife is also reported to have been a convert to Ibn Abd al-Wahhab’s cause. Upon arriving in Diriyya, a pact was made between Ibn Saud and Ibn Abd al-Wahhab, by which Ibn Saud pledged to implement Ibn Abd al-Wahhab’s teachings and enforce them on neighboring towns. Beginning in the last years of the 18th century Ibn Saud and his heirs would spend the next 140 years mounting various military campaigns to seize control of Arabia and its outlying regions, finally taking control of the whole of modern day Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 1922. This provided the movement with a state. Vast wealth from oil discovered in the following decades, coupled with Saudi control of the holy cities of Mecca and Medina, have since provided a base and funding for Salafi missionary activity.
Ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab considered his movement an effort to purify Islam by returning Muslims to what he believed were the original principles of Islam, as typified by the Salaf and rejecting what he regarded as corruptions introduced by Bid’ah and Shirk.
Although all Muslims pray to one God, ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab was keen on emphasizing that no intercession with God was possible without His permission, which He only grants to whom He wills and only to benefit those whom He wills, certainly not the ones who invoke anything or anyone except Him, as these would never be forgiven,. Specific practices, such as celebrating the birth of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, were also deemed as innovations. He is hence considered by his followers to be a great revivalist of Islam, and by his opponents as an innovator and heretic. In either case, ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab’s impact on Islam has been considerable and significant.
Ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab also revived interest in the works of the Islamic scholar Ibn Taymiya.
The followers of this revival (see Salafism) are often called Wahhabis, though most reject the usage of this term on the grounds that ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab’s teachings were the teachings of The Holy Prophet Muhammad(Peace Be Up on Him), not his own. Thus, most generally refer to themselves as Salafis, while during his lifetime they often referred to themselves muwahhidin (“monotheists”).
Ibn Abd al-Wahhab’s descendents are known today as “Al al-Shaykh” (“House of the Shaykh”). The family of Al al-Shaykh has included several religious scholars, including the former grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, Muhammad ibn Ibrahm Al al-Shaykh, who issued the fatwa calling for the abdication of King Saud in 1964. Both the current Saudi minister of justice and the current grand mufti of Saudi Arabia are also descendents of Ibn Abd al-Wahhab.
Perceptions of ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab are varied. To many Muslims of the Salafi persuasion, ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab is a significant luminary in the proud tradition of Islamic scholarship. A great number of lay Sunni Muslims regard him as a pious scholar whose interpretations of the Qur’an and Hadith were nevertheless out of step with the mainstream of Islamic thought, and thus discredited. Some scholars regard him as a pious scholar who called people back to worship of Allah according to the Qur’an and Sunnah. Others, often Sufis, regard him as a one who stopped at nothing to gain power and manipulate others. Natana DeLong-Bas, meanwhile, has recently published a self-described “controversial” book that complicates the idea that ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab contributed to the “militant stance of contemporary jihadism.”
These are the madmen whom we empower through oil consumption.
Europe’s Hedging on Inmates Clouds Guantanamo Plans
(New York Times, March 16, 2009, Pg. 1)
European countries that have offered to help the Obama administration close the detention center at Guantanamo Bay have begun raising questions about the security risks and requirements if they accept prisoners described by the Bush administration as “the worst of the worst,” according to diplomats and other officials. The concerns, and a deep suspicion of whether the American intelligence community will share full information on the prisoners, are likely to complicate the resettlement effort, which is critical to President Barack Obama’s fulfilling his pledge to close Guantanamo within a year of his taking office.
EU Could Aid U.S. by Taking 60 Detainees
(Financial Times, March 16, 2009)
Up to 60 Guantanamo Bay detainees could be taken in by European Union countries, according to the bloc’s senior justice official. Jacques Barrot, the vice-president of the EU, said Europe’s response to any U.S. request that it take former detainees would be a “test issue” ahead of a trip he is making to Washington this week. “We are open to co-operation to help close Guantanamo as long, of course, as the methods used there are not replicated in other places,” he said, adding that Washington would need to give the EU complete information on the background of the detainees sent to Europe.
U.S. Challenged on Sealing of Detainee Files
(Washington Post, March 16, 2009, Pg. 15)
The Justice Department has filed “unclassified” records in federal court outlining the government’s cases against more than 100 detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, but the records are not being made public. The move has triggered a legal skirmish with detainees’ attorneys, who say the excessive secrecy greatly complicates their work, especially in light of looming hearings. Three news organizations have also joined the fight, saying the government is keeping valuable information from the public. The government says it wants to keep the records from public view for now as a national security precaution after it discovered classified information in the documents.
Obama Issues Reassurances On Guantanamo Prisoners
[Kansas City Star, March 12, 2009]
Obama Issues Reassurances On Guantanamo Prisoners [Kansas City Star, March 12, 2009] Barack Obama said that he would never put communities like Leavenworth at risk in deciding where to relocate prisoners once Guantanamo is shut down. Fort Leavenworth is one of several military prisons being talked about as a replacement for the Guantanamo detention center.
If President Obama is not going to put the talibs and al Qaeda prisoners of war in Federal Prisons, where will he put them? Are they going to become a part of the stimulus package? Will he build a new maximum security prison in South Dakota somewhere? If he is still going to hold them and process them at his leisure, what is the difference between his policy and the Bush policy. The name and location of the facility in which they will be held?
This is mere eyewash. It’s a huge lie and cover up. Obama is turning out to be nothing more than Clinton II. I thought the Dems voted against a Clinton in their primaries.
Guess they’re like FPOTUS Bush in that they “can’t get fooled again.” Only they did. As did the other voters who ushered him into office on his campaign pledge of “Hope and Change.” Camelot II is turning out to sound a whole lot like Hope II. The man from Hope [Arkansas]. And Change. From Clinton to Clinton Lite.
It’s almost funny.
Taliban Lieutenant Is Former Detainee
[Washington Times, March 11, 2009, Pg. 2]
U.S. officials said the Taliban’s new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan is a former Guantanamo detainee. Abdullah Ghulam Rasoul was among 13 prisoners released to the Afghan government in 2007.
Guantanamo could be the future downfall of President Obama. He has a long think ahead of him concerning what to do with all of the prisoners in Guantanamo. If this guy was released, imagine the monsters who’ve NOT been released.
But I’m certain that they are all nice guys who are completely innocent. Right…
On another note of Obama brilliance:
July 6, 2008Marie Colvin in Mosul
American and Iraqi forces are driving Al-Qaeda in Iraq out of its last redoubt in the north of the country in the culmination of one of the most spectacular victories of the war on terror.
After being forced from its strongholds in the west and centre of Iraq in the past two years, Al-Qaeda’s dwindling band of fighters has made a defiant “last stand” in the northern city of Mosul.
A huge operation to crush the 1,200 fighters who remained from a terrorist force once estimated at more than 12,000 began on May 10.
Operation Lion’s Roar, in which the Iraqi army combined forces with the Americans’ 3rd Armoured Cavalry Regiment, has already resulted in the death of Abu Khalaf, the Al-Qaeda leader, and the capture of more than 1,000 suspects.
The group has been reduced to hit-and-run attacks, including one that killed two off-duty policemen yesterday, and sporadic bombings aimed at killing large numbers of officials and civilians.
Last Friday I joined the 2nd Iraqi Division as it supported local police in a house-to-house search for one such bomb after intelligence pointed to a large explosion today.
Even in the district of Zanjali, previously a hotbed of the insurgency, it was possible to accompany an Iraqi colonel on foot through streets of breeze-block houses studded with bullet holes. Hundreds of houses were searched without resistance but no bomb was found, only 60kg of explosives.
American and Iraqi leaders believe that while it would be premature to write off Al-Qaeda in Iraq, the Sunni group has lost control of its last urban base in Mosul and its remnants have been largely driven into the countryside to the south.
Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq’s prime minister, who has also led a crackdown on the Shi’ite Mahdi Army in Basra and Baghdad in recent months, claimed yesterday that his government had “defeated” terrorism.
“They were intending to besiege Baghdad and control it,” Maliki said. “But thanks to the will of the tribes, security forces, army and all Iraqis, we defeated them.”
The number of foreign fighters coming over the border from Syria to bolster Al-Qaeda’s numbers is thought to have declined to as few as 20 a month, compared with 120 a month at its peak.
Brigadier General Abdullah Abdul, a senior Iraqi commander, said: “We’ve limited their movements with check-points. They are doing small attacks and trying big ones, but they’re mostly not succeeding.”
My Uncle emailed this article to me. I had read it in the Asian Wallstreet Journal. I wonder why the American media hasn’t put this out. No agendas there…
Major-General Mark Hertling, American commander in the north, said: “I think we’re at the irreversible point.”
George emailed me this story. I also read it on the way from Tokyo to Bangkok in the Asian Wallstreet Journal in the complimentary copy that JAL offers. As does George, I wonder why this story is not widely printed in the states. Lord God Obama must have the American MSM firmly in his grasp. It would be counter to their aims of fooling the electorate into thinking that all is lost and that, therefore, they should all vote for Lord God Obama.