Posts Tagged ‘Religion’
Afghanistan has a sickness called Religion. It’s a disease of the mind and spirit.
Religions are all designed with one thing in mind. CONTROL! Domination over weak minded masses by a powerful individual or ruling class of individuals. Religion is a tool by which the dominant classes allows the less powerful classes to yoke themselves. Religion is the willing spiritual self-enslavement to false gods and greed driven, power lusting men.
This video is proof positive of this.
WARNING: IF YOU ARE A BELIEVER, YOU WILL NOT ENJOY READING THIS!
The Legendary Triumph
In the year 312 AD, a fiery and unscrupulous but vigorous and ambitious man named Constantine was leading a great army across Italy to meet his rival for the emperorship of the world, Maxentius. Suddenly, just after noon, he saw, flaming on the heavens, the Greek monogram, the Labarum or Chi-Rho symbol of Christ, together with the words:
In this sign, conquer.The sign cannot have been startling or obviously miraculous and Constantine did not fall on his knees. He merely wondered what the sign meant. No ecclesiastical historian today believes the vision as miraculous. The cross, if it ever existed at all, might have been the phenomenon of sun-dogs, caused by ice crystals in the stratosphere.
During the night, a second vision informed him that this monogram referred to the same Christ whose religion and followers he had been familiar with for ten years at least. After consultation with Christian clergy, he declared that the Sun-God had been created by the Christian God, removed the eagles from his standards and put in their place the Chi-Ro symbol of the failed Jewish Messiah. The following day, he marched on, crossed the Milvian bridge and did conquer. He won the battle of the Milvian Bridge and so supremacy over the whole Roman Empire. Later he converted, but a good many of his family and the Roman ruling class already had. With an emperor’s authority, Christianity was now secure.
I believe that the only way to get back to the original beleif of the followers of Ieshua is to strip away all Roman influence.
I may be a bit too hard on Paul because I like many of the Apostles believe him to be an interloper. He’s the Bill Gates of Christianity.
If you know the Nazarene as Jesus Christ, it is my belief that you know not the man at all. If you see “Jesus Christ” as a White European, you know not the man. If you preach hell, punishment, division, hatred for this or that group, and the whole host of other trash that is preached/taught by the Christian Church and has been part of the Christian Church for ages, you do not know the man.
Hell Fire and Brimstone is not the message of the Man from Nazareth.
I see hate in the Church. All of the Churches. Including and sometimes even more so from the post Protestant Reformation Churches.
Where did Jesus preach that Homosexuals or Jews were going to hell?
Where did Jesus preach to judge everyone and condemn them all to hell or to run around saying that non-believers were going to hell?
Where did Jesus preach “God helps those who help themselves?”
I suppose I am too harsh on Paul. That’s probably because I think he is too GREATLY worshiped by the masses for whom he should be a conduit to the Nazarene. Instead, Paul is akin to the Islamic Mullah who tells the illiterate masses how to believe, how to perceive, how to feel about the teachings of the Nazarene.
If I take a lie and split it into two pieces, do those two pieces then become truths. No. Such is the case with the Protestant Reformation. If there is a centigram of Rome in your beliefs, you have strayed from the message of the Nazarene.
The only way to get back to the Nazarene and his message is to go directly to him. It’s difficult as we know very little about who he was or what he actually stated. Unless the Vatican has his words hidden away from the world in their vast dungeons and libraries.
If Genghis Khan had conquered Europe and had taken Christianity and co-opted it into a tool of his Empire, Jesus would have become Asian. This did not happen. Yet, it did.
Constantine used Christianity to re-conquer/re-unite the Empire. Then he decreed it the religion of the Empire.
Is that not ironic? “Jesus” said that his is the Kingdom of Heaven. God did not send his “only begotten son” to conquer. Yet, we are led to believe by the Roman Church that God changed his mind and decided to send Constantine to conquer in his name.
I do not believe the story as it comes down to us through the Vatican. I believe that Ieshua (Jesus) was a prophet, a speaker of truths.
I believe that he died and in a sense, yes, he did die for our sins. He did not die to atone for “original sin.” He died to bring us a message of Love. However, humanity was too proud of itself to inculcate his teachings. I compare Ieshua to the Buddha. He learned, he gained wisdom and he passed on his wisdom to the masses. I do not believe that Ieshua was God or that he was or is the only way to Eternity. I believe that he taught a way. Much like Buddha. He taught love for our fellow man. He taught compassion. He taught faith and hope. He taught us to be good and kind to one another. I believe that when he stated “I am the way. No man gets to heaven before me.” that he was saying that we should follow his example. “I am the way.” The Nazarene is bidding us follow his example. He’s not asking us to “glorify” him. That is mere paganistic Sun God worship syncretically transmogrified into Christian Imperialistic idolatry.
I do not believe that he was saying that we should all gather in some mega-church and scream in ecstasy that we “love Jesus.” I think Jesus would be appalled by such behavior. Instead of building multimillion dollar institutions with glamorous edifices to “Christ the Savior,” I believe that Ieshua would want that money to go towards edifying the poor. Christianity is appalling. Christians spend millions a year on Theme Park Christianity. Show places of humility and piety. Ieshua instructed his disciples to go into their rooms or a dark place and to pray alone. He did not teach his disciples to gather in orgiastic congegations of worldly excess.
Christians do not listen. They want the magnificent. They want the show. They want to show.
Give to the poor. Give to the needy. Pick up your neighbor. Help a stranger.
The billions of untold wealth held by the Churchs of the world could alleviate much suffering. Instead, it is gathered and maintained as a show of the “Glory of God.” This is not what Christ taught. This is what Rome taught.
Christians are not so dissimilar from Muslims in this regard. They make fantastic show of faith and devotion to religion but live out a life that is the exact opposite of the supposed tenets of their faith.
Faith, Hope and Love ~ This is the true message of the Nazarene.
If anyone secretly entices you–even if it is your brother, your father’s son or your mother’s son, or your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or your most intimate friend– saying, “Let us go worship other gods,” whom neither you nor your ancestors have known,
any of the gods of the peoples that are around you, whether near you or far away from you, from one end of the earth to the other, you must not yield to or heed any such persons. Show them no pity or compassion and do not shield them.
But you shall surely kill them; your own hand shall be first against them to execute them, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Stone them to death for trying to turn you away
I agree with the Tea Partiers and Neo-Nativists.
Any religion that includes passages such as these
in their Holy Book should be banned from the
United States of America.
These are outdated notions in a world attempting to achieve universal peace and harmony. Any religion that claims to be
of love and peaceful would recognize that such talk is counter-
productive and would rid itself of such language.
By the way, that passage under the photo is straight
out of the Bible (Deuteronomy 13:6).
A most excellent passage from the New Testament would seem to apply here:
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
Jesus of Nazereth
No Conversion, Please: “I believe that there is no such thing as conversion from one faith to another in the accepted sense of the word. It is a highly personal matter for the individual and his God. I may not have any design upon my neighbour as to his faith, which I must honour even as I honour my own. Having reverently studied the scriptures of the world I could no more think of asking a Christian or a Musalman, or a Parsi or a Jew to change his faith than I would think of changing my own.” (Harijan: September 9, 1935)
All Religions are True: “I came to the conclusion long ago … that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu … But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian.” (Young India: January 19, 1928)
I wonder how many will have the courage to forward this on to friends and relatives. ; ) No guilt from me. Do as you wish. God won’t hate you. God won’t love you more. You won’t get good luck or bad. No car will come crashing through the front of your house and you won’t go bald or become impotent if you don’t forward this. You won’t lose your your job, your wife or your dog if you don’t forward this. You won’t win the lottery or a get laid if you do send it forward. You’ll simply have forwarded on something for others to think about.
(I sent this out as an email. I wonder if it will make it back to me someday as a forward.)
I have discussed religion and politics around the world with people with whom I have no reason to expect agreement.
Yet, I’ve never been in a fight. And I don’t really hold back on that which I believe.
For instance, I know for a fact that I disagree with most Europeans with whom I come into contact over Israel. Yet, I discuss and we’ve discussed without it becoming a problem. This is in personal, face to face conversation. Yet, on the internet, it always turns ugly. Why is this? I’m constantly attacked and called a “cunt” on the ‘net. Especially on websites such as ThailandFriends.com.
It seems that on the net. Where one can be as ugly as possible without physical repercussions, the folks get ugly almost immediately. Without thought. A few folks on this website in particular are guilty of this. One can not speak of Islam without an onslaught of insult. If you ever go there, Ciaran, Beej and Pee Marc are the most egregious examples of this inability to discuss subjects intelligently and amicably. I’ve discussed the pros and cons of Islam with Muslims in Muslim lands and have never been insulted as much. What’s even more hilarious is that one mention of Islam brings about attacks on Christianity. I’m not Christian. So the tactic does not work.
I find it ever more hilarious that one of these guys has as part of his Artistic portraiture a picture of Jesus made up of dollar bills and another print/creation of Shell with blood as oil. Yet, he doesn’t stop to consider that the Holy Keepers and Sacred Defenders of Islam known as Saudi Arabia are the folks who benefit most from the bloody old trade. It’s the Saudis who benefit most from oil and have since their unholy alliance with FDR. Yet, he attacks the dollar and Jesus when it is the Saudi denomination in both money and religion that benefits most from the dollar. Perhaps, he’s too stupid to realize this. The House of Saud, Mohammad and Islam had benefited most from oil.
Then again, most ideologically pure folks are too blind to realize their stupidity.
Which leads to the question? Why?
What is it about White Anglo Saxon Protestants and other Europeans that lead them to attack those who question Islam more vociferously than even Muslims themselves. Muslims are capable of self examination. It seems that White Europeans and their cousins in America are not capable of this. It’s a quandary with which I am not particularly capable of answering. Are these folks so emotionally crippled by their guilt over past “sins” that they are incapable of questioning the present. What is it?
I am truly perplexed by this strange phenomenon. Will some European please explain it to me without becoming enraged and simply calling me a cunt. lol
It’s quite hilarious. So, if you want to debase yourself by calling me a cunt. Please do so. I will laugh it off and spread further the Euro apoplexy. If someone with the intelligence and the ability to emotionally separate oneself from their ideology could explain this strange phenomenon to me could be so kind, I would truly appreciate it.
I’m curious. perhaps, they are so anti-West and so elitist and so bigoted that they can’t see that those whom they seek to “protect” are just as illegitimate and just as corrupt as those against whom, in their impotence, they rebel.
(June 5) — Women in Saudi Arabia should give their breast milk to male colleagues and acquaintances in order to avoid breaking strict Islamic law forbidding mixing between the sexes, two powerful Saudi clerics have said. They are at odds, however, over precisely how the milk should be conveyed.
A fatwa issued recently about adult breast-feeding to establish “maternal relations” and preclude the possibility of sexual contact has resulted in a week’s worth of newspaper headlines in Saudi Arabia. Some have found the debate so bizarre that they’re calling for stricter regulations about how and when fatwas should be issued.
Sheikh Al Obeikan, an adviser to the royal court and consultant to the Ministry of Justice, set off a firestorm of controversy recently when he said on TV that women who come into regular contact with men who aren’t related to them ought to give them their breast milk so they will be considered relatives.
“The man should take the milk, but not directly from the breast of the woman,” Al Obeikan said, according to Gulf News. “He should drink it and then becomes a relative of the family, a fact that allows him to come in contact with the women without breaking Islam’s rules about mixing.”
Obeikan said the fatwa applied to men who live in the same house or come into contact with women on a regular basis, except for drivers.
Al Obeikan, who made the statement after being asked on TV about a 2007 fatwa issued by an Egyptian scholar about adult breast-feeding, said that the breast milk ought to be pumped out and given to men in a glass.
But his remarks were followed by an announcement by another high-profile sheik, Abi Ishaq Al Huwaini, who said that men should suckle the breast milk directly from a woman’s breast.
Shortly after the two sheiks weighed in on the matter, a bus driver in the country’s Eastern Region reportedly told one of the female teachers whom he drives regularly that he wanted to suckle milk from her breast. The teacher has threaten to file a lawsuit against him.
The fatwa stems from the tenets of the strict Wahhabi version of Islam that governs modern Saudi Arabia and forbids women from mixing with men who are not relatives. They are also not allowed to vote, drive or even leave the country without the consent of a male “guardian.”
Under Islamic law, women are encouraged to breast-feed their children until the age of 2. It is not uncommon for sisters, for example, to breast-feed their nephews so they and their daughters will not have to cover their faces in front of them later in life. The custom is called being a “breast milk sibling.”
In another bizarre fatwa (ruling) by the Wahhabi Clerics of that insane religion from the Nejd, a group of Saudi Clerics has stated that men who frequently interact with women from outside of their family should drink the breast milk of said women in order to become their “siblings.”
Why make rules or even follow the Qu’ran if they are going to go to such lengths to get around them. The Saudi Kings and Princes [supposedly] follow Islam while they are in the Kingdom. When they depart the sacred land of Arabia, these Princes do as they please. The rules apparently only apply while they are on sacred Saudi soil.
I know that while I was in Kuwait several Filipino gals were kidnapped, raped, murdered and then deposited in the desert. The desert tells no tales. Another “custom” of these holy men of Arabia is to lure young Filipino and other Asian gals into one of the desert Kingdoms with the lure of employment. Come to Kuwait or Saudi Arabia or one of the UAE countries to become a maid, an aux pair or run a restaurant. Once the girls arrive, the sponsor takes her passport. The first thing that takes place is that the girl is raped and beaten. She no longer is in possession of her passport. This is in the possession of her sponsor. She has no recourse. She can’t complain to the police. They’ll not believe her. Especially as the rules of Sharee’ah are in force. She needs witnesses. If she claims rape, yet, has no witnesses, she’s guilty of adultery or fornication or crimes against chastity. She’ll be judged against and punished harshly. Up to and including beatings, canings, lashes and death.
I guess now, though, all they have to do is give up a little breast milk and their siblings.
Hey! Then everything is A-OK.
Ain’t that grand.
And that’s Islam in a nutshell.
Power in the name of religion, Allah, Mohammad.
The Wahhabis need to be ended. Period.
Without Wahhabism, Islam could be a decent religion. Possibly have a renaissance era that brings it into an era of peace and out of it’s essence of death, violence and war.
Any person in the West who is mad enough or stupid enough to justify or rationalize this lunacy should be deported and made to live in Saudi Arabia in the Nejd.
Air drop their ridiculous selves into the Nejd and let them fend for themselves. That’s a perfect punishment for child molestors, rapists and murderers, too. Hell, perhaps we could send our politicians there, too. Let’s make Obama the first example of Islamic “Justice.”
Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is a moronic policy. It was a farce from the start. I knew several gay and lesbian persons while in the Military. Their sexuality never posed a problem in carrying out their duties. I didn’t know many people who had a problem with them.
Prohibitions against homosexuals in the Military should be removed period. Sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with ones ability to accomplish the mission. Forcing one to hide ones sexuality and the pressures involved in that endeavor causes unnecessary stress on military persons who may be deployed to already stressful environs.
If your religion carries with it a belief that homosexuality is wrong or an abomination, you should express that belief and the angst involved in the Church, Temple, Mosque or Synagogue. Leave it there and come to work ready to accomplish the mission. Your religion has no place on the job. It belongs in your heart. Leave it there.
Personally, I believe that Christianity and Islam should be purged from the face of the earth.
I leave that belief at the door when I go to work.
If you believe in God and are Christian, you are supposed to believe in free will. It’s a fundamental part of the message of Christ. You are supposed to love your fellow man. Regardless. It’s the Golden Rule.
If you are Muslim, well, you probably believe that homosexuals are an abomination and that they should submit to the will of Allah. Even so, Mohammad and Allah say to leave the judgment of souls to Allah.
The Constitution guarantees religious freedom. It does not guarantee that you won’t be offended by the beliefs, lives or practices of others. It guarantees that you and others can express yourselves religiously as you see fit. It does not give you the right to force your beliefs on others. It does not give you the right to force others to conform their lives in accordance with your mythological deity.
Homosexuality is strange to me as well. I don’t get it. I don’t have to get it. Nether do you. As long as they can do their jobs, so be it. Let them in, let them be.
Best Buy Ad Touting Muslim Holiday Sparks Debate
Another post wasn’t as supportive: “Happy Eid Al-Adha but no Merry Christmas? I assume your next advertisements will say Merry Christmas. Otherwise, I will no longer shop at best buy. I will shop at those businesses which support Christmas.”
Best Buy released a statement saying, “We do use the word ‘holiday’ in some of our advertising because it is meant to be inclusive to everyone. However, just as we have in the past, we will also reference specific holidays such as Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa in our weekly ads, store signage and other advertising vehicles.”
I don’t get it. I don’t understand how marketing firms can think it is non-offensive to generalize Christian Holidays and then specifically market to Muslims on Islamic holidays. I don’t have a problem with gearing their marketing towards Muslims and their holidays. Though, were I Muslim, I’d be offended with the commercial targeting of such a holy occasion. However, I question the wisdom of surrendering to the PC Police when it comes to Christianity by steering away from the use of terms like “Merry Christmas” and instead using Happy Holidays while specifically targeting Muslim holidays and using Islamic terms in the advertising such as “Eid Mubarak.” Muslims be careful. This is the first step towards commercializing your holy days. The last step is the loss of all meaning except gaining a profit from your religious and semi-religious cohorts.
As the old saying goes, BUYER BEWARE!
I believe that God has no true connection to any of the established religions of our age. Every religioin/church of our age is an offshoot of some system of governance and all have been used for the accumulation and furtherance earthly authority/power.
I believe that God loves all of humanity and accepts all of mankind despite religious belief or affiliation. Furthermore, I believe that if he was as active an interloper in the affairs of man, he would have destroyed all of the current set of religions much as the Bible portrays him as destroying Sodom and Gomorra. All earthly religions are corruptions of the true spirit of God and humanity. Whether it be the Protestant/Catholic schism of Christianity or the Shi’a/Sunni schism of Islam, all sow discord and divide when they should be uniting energies for all of mankind.
Only when a religion unites mankind through compassion, spirituality and love–faith, hope and love–only then will a religion have the true authority and standing of God.
God is Faith.
God is Hope.
God is Love
For all of humanity. Not one race. Not one belief. Not only for straight people. Not only for Jews or gentiles or Muslims or Hindus or anyone one specific people.
God is for all of humanity.
Enough on Religion and it’s ill effects on humanity.
My boy Farhad is leaving for Iran on Saturday. He probably won’t be back until after I depart for leave. Today, I wrote him a letter of introduction to the Embassy of the Netherlands for his Visa application. If all goes well, he’ll depart for the Netherlands before I return. I’m going to miss Farhad. And so it begins, the end draws near.
We despise all reverences and all the objects of reverence which are outside the pale of our own list of sacred things. And yet, with strange inconsistency, we are shocked when other people despise and defile the things which are holy to us.
~ Mark Twain
There is a lesson here for all. Liberals disdain the religious folk of America for their demagoguery against homosexuality and abortion and much of liberal ideology. The religious right of America turns that same disdain back on the Left because the Left constantly uses the symbols and sacred writings and personages or deities of the religion as items of scorn.
And the cycle of misunderstanding, mis-characterization and violence endlessly and heedlessly continues. Pulsating with hatred and abuse. Round and round to no end.
Add the Muslims to the equation and the revolution simply becomes more and more violent and more and more out of touch with the spirit of generosity, charity and brotherhood espoused by each of these theologies of man. Lost is faith, hope and love. Replaced by desolation, poverty and apathy.
Humanity takes ideas that should bring all together and uses them as tools of division.
Perhaps, Sam is right and the animals are much more evolved than us.
A final tally of 26 cantons indicates that 57.5 percent of the population have voted in favour of the ban on minarets — the turrets or towers attached on mosques from where Muslims are called to prayer.
Only four cantons rejected the proposal brought by Switzerland’s biggest party — the Swiss People’s Party (SVP), which claims that minarets symbolise a “political-religious claim to power.”
Honestly, I think that this should be the policy of the west until Muslim countries change their policies toward Churches and other religions/beliefs within their own countries.
They’ll complain, but, they haven’t a foot to stand on. Especially the most vocal of the complainants such as Saudi Arabia. The unholy House of Sa’ud rails against intolerance of Islam in other countries, yet, they are intolerant of any other religion or belief within Saudi Arabia–even forcing non-Muslim women to wear the hijab–and are the primary exporters of Wahhabism and Islamic Fundamentalism throughout the globe.
All religions are bi-polar. At once espousing peace and war, intolerance and inclusiveness. Islam is no worse a religion than any other in my opinion. It’s leadership, though, leaves much to be desired.
If this is the case, then why is Saudi Arabia not in violation of International law. There are several Muslim countries with these restrictions against building religious structures. Seems a bit of a double standard to me. The UN should clean up the primary violators of international law before they go looking for villains in a country like Switzerland.
If a backlash against Islam is in the offing, much of the blame can and should be placed squarely on the shoulders of leadership of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Palestine and Syria.
Man is a Religious Animal. He is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion — several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn’t straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother’s path to happiness and heaven….The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste.
~ Sam Clemens
Much of what follows is excerpted from various books on Mormon theology. These are not my thoughts. I simply thought them interesting and worth sharing here.
The “Latin” or “Passion” cross, now the primary symbol of Christianity, was not shown in Christian art until six centuries after Christ. But long before the Christian era it was a pagan religious symbol throughout Europe and western Asia. Early Christians even repudiated the cross because it was pagan. A church father of the 3rd century, Minucius Felix, indignantly denied that Christians worshipped the cross: “You it is, ye Pagans, who are the most likely people to adore wooden crosses . . . for what else are your ensigns, flags, and standards, but crosses gilt and beautiful. Your victorious trophies not only represent a simple cross, but a cross with a man on it.”
From a very ancient times, an effigy of a man hanging on a cross was set up in fields to protect the crops. The modern scarecrow is a survival of the sacrificial magic, representing the sacred king whose blood was supposed to fertilize the earth. He was never abandoned, even though every farmer knew that no scarecrow ever really scared a crow.
The cross was also a male symbol of the phallic Tree of Life; therefore it often appeared in conjunction with the female-genital circle or oval, to signify the sacred marriage. Male cross and female orb composed the Egyptian “amulet Nefer,” or amulet of blessedness, a charm of sexual harmony.
The so-called Celtic cross, with the crossing of the arms encircled by a ring, was another lingam-yoni sign of sexual union, known to the Hindus as Kiakra. Some old Celtic crosses still in existence show obvious phallic elements, even to a realistic meatus at the cross’s tip. Crosses signified a god’s love-death even in pre-Columbian art of the western hemisphere, which showed the Savior carrying his cross, an image very similar to the Christian one.
No one knows exactly when the cross became associated with Christianity. Early images of Jesus represented him no on a cross but in the guise of the Osirian or Hermetic “Good Shepherd,” carrying a lamb. Later, many different kinds of crosses were used as Christian symbols. They included the Greek cross of equal arms, the X-shaped St. Andrew’s cross, the swastika, the Gnostic Maltese cross, the solar cross or Cross of Wotan, and the ansated cross, a development of the Egyptian ank, also found as the Cross of Venus.
Greeks said this cross was “common to the worship of Christ and Sarapis.” The Goddess Isis is shown on the Isiac Table with the cross in one hand, a lotus seed-vessel in the other, signifying male and female genitalia. As her consort, the god Sarapis was incarnate in Ptolemy. The words “Ptolemy the Savior” were followed by a cross on the Darmietta Stone. Pious Christian scholar once tried to pretend that this phrase was really a prophecy of the future Christ.
Male genitals are still called “the tree of life” by the Arabs, and a cross was one of the oldest diagrammatic images of male genitals. Among Christians there was at least some recognition of the cross’s phallic significance. An ancient crucifix at Sancreed in Cornwall was a spear set upright in a holy vase (the uterine vessel with two testicle-like scrolls appended to its shaft. The cross entering the labyrinth was one of the oldest symbols of the lingam-yoni in the west, dating back to early Neolithic times. Spiral “feminine” labyrinths penetrated by a cross occur in prehistoric rock carvings from Crete, at Tintagel in Cornwall, Wier Island in Finland, and Chartres Cathedral.
The LDS Beliefs
Among the Assyrians, Persians, Phoenicians of Carthage, Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans, the cross was an instrument of execution. From earliest times the eventual crucifixion and death of our Lord upon the cross was revealed to holy prophets. The gospel authors detail may of the events and circumstances incident thereto. And after his resurrection, our Lord said that the very reason he came into the world was to fulfill the will of the Father in being lifted up upon the cross.
Because of its association with our Lord, the cross has come to have symbolic meanings for those who profess belief in his atoning blood. Paul properly used the cross of Christ to identify to the mind the whole doctrine of the atonement, reconciliation, and redemption.
In succeeding centuries, the churches which came into being through an intermingling of pagan concepts with the true apostolic Christianity developed the practice of using symbolic crosses in the architecture of their buildings and as jewelry attached to the robes of their priests. Frequently this practice of dwelling on the personal death struggle of our Lord has caused theses churches to put sculptured representations of Christ on their crosses, these forming so-called crucifixes. All this is inharmonious with the spirit of worship and reverence that should attend a true Christian’s remembrance of our Lord’s sufferings and death. In fact, the revealed symbolism to bring these things to the attention of true worshipers is found in the ordinance of the sacrament.
Bible History concerning Solomon and the cross
The scripture says, “For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father [who, with all his faults, resisted every taint of idolatry]. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully after the Lord, as did David his father”. (1 Kings 11:4-6)
There were two characteristics of heathen worship which made them far more abominable than simply bowing down to images of wood and stone. One was the use of erotic fertility rites in which drunkenness and acts of immorality were utilized as sacramental offerings by the heathen worshiper. The other was the slaughtering of human beings, particularly children and virgins, as forms of sacrifice. Only when these facts are understood will the Bible reader comprehend the vehemence with which the Lord and his prophets denounced “the groves,” the phallic symbols and all other aspects of heathen worship associated with idolatry.
However, Solomon’s sin appears to have been the building of heathen temples where these rites could be practices rather than actually participating in them himself. And he appears to have built these heathen centers in response to the teasing and conniving of his idolatrous wives. The seriousness of his offense is spelled out in the following scripture, “Then did Solomon build a high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem [the Mount of Olives] and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods.”
The founding fathers of the Church fought for over 500 years to keep this pagan symbol out of the church. The early Christians were tortured and killed for their beliefs. One by one, the Apostles were killed. Because of the persecution, surviving Apostles could not meet to chose and ordain men to replace those who were dead. The perfect organization of the Church no longer existed, and confusion resulted. But as the Roman pagans took over and reorganize the Church this symbol was transferred from the pagan church to the Christian Church and then the great apostasy from the True Church began. Then pagan beliefs dominated the thinking of those called Christians. The Roman emperor adopted this false Christianity as the state religion. The Roman emperor chose the leaders of the church and uses the same titles as the true Church of Christ. Church officers were given honor and wealth. Bishops and archbishops fought among themselves to gain more power. There were no Apostles or other priesthood leaders with power from God, and there were no spiritual gifts.
The prophet Isaiah had foreseen this condition, prophesying, “The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants there of; because they have transgress the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant” (Isaiah 24:5). It was the Church of Jesus Christ no longer; it was a church of men. Even the name had been changed.
My Comments: As can be seen from the above quotes, the cross was never intended to be a symbol to be worship or to be used as an article to identify one as a Christian. This was a pagan symbol created in the minds of non-believers of God of Israel by Satan himself from the beginning to be used in the sacrificial murder of the innocent and/or to promote sexual rites. This is the reason that we do not use the cross in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Research and comments by my Step-Father.
Good work, George.
If the original authors of the items borrowed above and used to explain why the Mormon Church doesn’t use the cross are offended by their re-posting here, pls contact me and I will happily remove the items of concern. But really, it’s a blog, it ain’t that serious. lol At least, this blog isn’t.
|As part of a revision to defamation legislation, the Dail (Irish Parliament) passed legislation creating a new crime of blasphemy. Update: The bill went to the Seanad on Friday, July 10, passing by a single vote. This attack on free speech, debated for several months in Europe, has gone largely unnoticed in the American press.
The text of the legislation is provided at the end of this post.
How does this impact free speech? Just don’t be rude.
* Atheists can be prosecuted for saying that God is imaginary. That causes outrage.
Is it really THAT big a deal?
Ireland’s Blasphemy Bill not only criminalizes free speech, it also gives the police the authority to confiscate anything deemed “blasphemous”. They may enter and search any premises, with force if needed, upon “reasonable suspicion” that such materials are present.
* The local Freethinkers society, with its copies of Hitchens’ God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.
Satirizing religion in any way, shape, or form, if it “causes outrage”, is now a prosecutable offense in Ireland. Saying anything negative about a religion, if it “causes outrage”, can now be prosecuted as a crime. Just like in Muslim countries.
Witness the return of the Dark Ages.
They’ve gone insane. Too many pints, I reckon…
How can it be when scenes like this are common place? This is the casket of one of our fallen Soldiers. Mohsin Naqvi. He gave his life fighting against the monsters who have co-opted Islam into their insidious aims to crush freedom in the lands of Muslim peoples and ultimately all peoples across the globe. The kid on the floor mourning is Hassan Naqvi. Is there someone who has the nerve to tell this kid that Islam killed his brother.
Islam is not the enemy. Wahhabism is the enemy. Extremism is the enemy. Extemism in any form. Political, civil, religious, cultural. It matters not.