This is an excerpt from Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsh.
GOD: “If you believe that God is someone omnipotent being who hears all prayers, says “yes” to some, “no” to others, and “maybe, but not now” to the rest, you are mistaken. By what rule of thumb would God decide?
If you believe that God is the creator and decider of all things in your life, you are mistaken.
God is the observer, not the creator. And God stands ready to assist you in living your life, but not in the way you might expect.
It is not God’s function to create, or uncreate, the circumstances and conditions of your life. God created you, in the image and likeness of God. You have created the rest, through the power God has given you. God created the process of life and life itself as you know it. Yet God gave you free choice, to do with life as you will.
In this sense, your will for you is God’s will for you.
You are living your life the way you are living your life and I have no preference in the matter
This is the grand illusion in which you have engaged: that God cares one way or the other what you do.
I do not care what you do, and that is hard for you to hear. Yet do you care what your children do when you send them out to play? Is it a matter of consequence to you whether they play tag, or hide and seek, or pretend? No, it is not, because you know they are perfectly safe. You have placed them in an environment which you consider friendly and very okay.
Of course, you will always hope that they do not hurt themself. And if they do, you will be right there to help them, heal them, allow them to feel safe again, to be happy again, to go and play again another day. But whether they choose hide and seek or pretend will not matter to you the next day, either.
You will tell them, of course, which games are dangerous to play. But you cannot stop your children from doing dangerous things. Not always. Not forever. Not in every moment from now until death. It is the wise parent who knows this. yet the parent never stops caring about the outcome. It is this dichotomy – not caring deeply about the process, but caring deeply about the result – that comes close to describing the dichotomy of God.
Yet God, in a sense does not even care about the outcome. Not the ultimate outcome. This is because the ultimate outcome is assured.
And this is the second greatest illusion of man: that the outcome of life is in doubt.
It is this doubt about ultimate outcome that has created your greatest enemy, which is fear. For if you doubt outcome, then you must doubt Creator – you must doubt God. And if you doubt God, you must live in fear and guilt all your life.
If you doubt God’s intentions – and God’s ability to produce this ultimate result – then how can you ever relax? How can you ever truly find peace?
Yet God has full power to match intentions with results. You cannot and will not believe in this (even though you claim that God is all-powerful), and so you have to create in your imagination a power equal to God, in order that you may find a way for God’s will to be thwarted. And so you have created in your mythology the being you call “devil”. You have even imagined a God at war with this being (thinking that God solves problems the way you do). Finally, you have actually imagined that God could lose this war.
All of this violates everything you say you know about God, but this doesn’t matter. You live your illusion, and thus feel your fear, all out of your decision to doubt God.
But what if you made a new decision? What then would be the result?
I tell you this: you would live as the Buddha did. As Jesus did. As did every saint you have ever idolized.
Yet, as with most of those saints, people would not understand you. And when you tried to explain your sense of peace, your joy in life, your inner ecstasy, they would listen to your words, but not hear them. They would try to repeat your words, but would add to them.
They would wonder how you could have what they cannot find. And then they would grow jealous. Soon jealousy would turn to rage, and in their anger they would try to convince you that it is you who do not understand God.
And if they were unsuccessful at tearing you from your joy, they would seek to harm you, so enormous would be their rage. And when you told them it does not matter, that even death cannot interrupt your joy, nor change your truth, they would surely kill you. then when they saw the peace with which you accepted death, they would call you saint, and love you again.
For it is the nature of people to love, then destroy, then love again that which they value most.”
I have not read this book. This piece simply struck me as truth.


Hey David, hope all is well with you. Ginger and I were having a discussion the other day about how man seeks to replace God, and the problem of trying to meet what is a essentially a spiritual need with earthly means. It get to that issue of our dual nature, that rather we acknowledge it or not, we are subject to.
Placing our faith in men (ourselves, our leaders, even our family) to fulfill spiritual needs can lead to false expectations, promises unfulfilled, apathy and antipathy. After watching our recent presidential elections, because they are so well covered, because they are so public, and because they are so subject to conditions, I marveled at how desperate so many people were to ascribe omnipotence and omniscience to a political figure who while might win a powerful political office, was still only a man.
We were listening to Bill Maher on Mike Huckabee’s program a week ago and they were having a discussion about belief and disbelief. Maher’s answer was that we were better off without belief, and he pointed to Europe as his model, citing all that Europe had achieved. It got me thinking about that – what did Europe achieve and how does it relate to their spiritual belief or disbelief in their long history? At what point did they the example for Maher’s model social perfection, and where along their development curve are they really? Are they on the uptick of the summit, or did they crest sometime ago and are on the down tick of the summit? How do you know, the history remains unwritten.
Since we have 5 of your (many) nieces and nephews, its worth considering where the United States is as well. While we ascribe to a certain belief, the question is not about that in my view. Its about the question of our nature and its dualistic requirements. Can we do without it? Can we do without and be happy or succeed as individuals or as a society? There seems to be a growing number of people who can only define themselves by what others believe or don’t believe.
I read an interesting quote the other day from Huey Long to the effect of “when fascism comes to America it will not come boldly and identifiable, but it will come in the guise of anti-fascism. It seems that idea could be expanded to many other dangerous ideas, they come to us a deceptions meant to feed our fears and desires and convince us they are the answers we seek.
Be Safe – Thanksgiving will not be the same without you in Louisville.
Best, Rob
I don’t understand all I know about this Dave, but I do find it to be interesting.
Sam
Hi Dave,
I was a Christian for over 20 years, and when I discovered Conversations With God Book 1 (from which this quote is taken) I was so captivated that I read it 8 times in a row. I am very very glad to say that I have finished the difficult process of deconversion from the christian mythology and I have to say that I just enjoy the CWG model so much! I wish you all the best on your journey and encourage you to make your own truth, decide for yourself what is right and wrong, and in doing so decide and declare Who You Are.
Jon
Thanks Jon
I’ve pretty much decided who I am and declared it. I’ve always believed that GOD is someone with whom a life long conversation was possible. And that he was a laizze faire kind of Spirit. Not the petty, big candy store in the sky God of Christianity.
I’ve been pretty happy in my life. So I think I’ve hit on a truth. We have to make our own happiness and our own successes and decisions in life all the while listening to the inner voice or inner spirit to guide us.
So I believe.
Peace.